INTERVIEW: WILL HYDE - INSPIRATION, ISOLATION, AND WHAT’S NEXT

Imagine the first time you hear a record of your own voice, or the silence right before someone clears their throat and tells you how they really feel. for will hyde, this uncharted territory has been years in the making. Evie had a chat with will about his recent releases, his process, time in isolation, personal experiences and inspirations, and what’s coming up for him in 2020!

(This is an email Q/A so we’ve left everything just as will wrote it - straight from the…Will’s…mouth'!)

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QUICK FIRE 

If you could go anywhere right now (pretend lockdown/ the pandemic isn’t a thing) where would you go?

i would love to go to the States!! i wanna go back to LA & NY soon.

If you could have 3 wishes what would they be?

great question.

1)   for everyone in the world to live in the present moment (that would take away anxiety, depression - living in the past/future like many of us do).

2)   for people to be happy. if we were happier, there wouldn’t be a need to bring negativity into the world.

3)   for equality in society. we’re all humans. sexuality/skin colour don’t need to seperate us. we all wanna be loved. we ain’t different, come on my people.

What is one thing you have put on your “bucket list”?

hmm. i actually haven’t thought about this or about a bucket list! i think i wanna spend some time in a silent retreat for a while at a temple in the future. i wanna meet Ekhart Tolle! 

Favourite song you are currently grooving to?

i love ‘not fair’ by kid laroi!! i always forget what i’m listening to i had to go to my artist spotify playlist haha (songs that remind me of u - quick plug).

Do you have any pets?

i do! i just got a puppy - his name is Bear. he is a labradoodle. when he yawns he makes a really cute teddy bear sound. i also have a few fish (they don’t get as much attention anymore which feels tough to say). 

Best piece of advice you’ve ever received?

hmmm. don’t wait for happiness. happiness will never come if u wait. success won’t change how u feel about urself. the only way u can start feeling better is to make peace with who u are NOW. :)

 And now for the serious stuff; 

How have you been coping in lockdown? Have you found any inspiration to get creative?

i have been finding it very good for me. i have been learning a lot about myself. i get lost in my head too much, i need to connect with the present moment more often. when i get lost in my head, life doesn’t feel as exciting or satisfying. i actually haven’t felt an effect of lockdown, purely because i got used to working from home when i first left school. routine is important. taking time for myself has been important. i’ve been reading! i’ve been writing a bit. i made two songs which feel super good to me. so it has been positive, yet i haven’t forced anything. i only really make music when i feel inspired!

You started off as one half of teenage electronic duo SŸDE, what led you to follow a solo career?

i like answering this question because it was a defining moment for me. i had a picture in my mind of who i wanted to be, what i wanted to stand for, the people i wanted to keep around in my circle. all of those things made my heart scream to follow my next chapter. we had a great run in SŸDE, a lot of moments i’m proud of, yet i had my darkest days during the period. i found it tough to be myself & the art i was creating while apart of the group just wasn’t me. i felt like i didn’t know how to be myself after leaving, i had to teach myself to be authentic to me. that was a really positive experience. the biggest catalyst was my depression/anxiety which forced a lot of internal change within me. i wanted to write about it, sing about it - the only way i could do that would be to go out on my own. very grateful for those times.

Can you please describe us what your creative process is like, how do you find inspiration for your music?

for sure! i like listening to a lot of music. especially during this period. just sitting back and taking in a bunch of different sounds has always been positive for me. honestly, the only music i listen to is stuff that makes me feel. when i feel something, that inspires me - because i have the opportunity to pass that on and give that to someone else. hopefully they feel some type of emotional connection to the songs i create. music is a gift that keeps on giving. from there, i generally just go about my day & melodies, track titles and production ideas flow thru my brain. when i think i have something great, i will work on it - take it to my notes and flesh it out. i mostly do this process by myself now. i like working with friends who are producers. i enjoy hearing how other people can interpret something i’ve made and make it better. collaboration is amazing like that. i always like to have a solid idea before entering any studio :).

 ‘easy for u’ is very groovy with a deeper message; it seems to be a bit about the kind of push and pull struggle of a hopeless relationship. Was this song based off an experience you had, or can it relate more broadly all kinds of relationships?

well thank u! i’m glad u felt that. it is based on experience yet i also want to keep my songs applicable to every relationship. there’s love in friendships, ur relationship with ur parents & of course intimately. the hard thing about the struggles of relationships is that it can feel very personal. usually people are just acting in their best interest but it does feel like something could be wrong with me. that’s a maturing thing i’ve let go & can understand now. it takes a few sobering conversations to reach that perspective tho, for sure.

What inspired you to write ‘meant to be’?

i remember going in to the studio session with fergus & dylan thinking about the concept of fractures. how a relationship can be so broken & over but it feels like u could still make something of it. i find for me that getting over people takes time. even tho i make decisions about who i want in my life quickly, if there was a connection, it still is a human that i’ve had memories with, you know what i mean? so sometimes it feels like we really could make amends. the trouble is, humans don’t really change! as much as i can want them to! they don’t usually. that’s a tough reality. a good lesson i’ve learned tho! on & up.

What do you hope people will take away from your work?

i hope people take away that it’s honest & authentic. i don’t want to sugar coat things & i just wanna do me. i spent too long doing the opposite. i hope people see a maturity in it too! most importantly, i hope people can find peace or happiness thru the music. that would be so special! that’s what i do it for.

You have been very open about the topic of anxiety and the challenge of overcoming adversity. How has the challenges in life influenced your music?

thank u. that means a lot to me. i like to think so! in the biggest way possible. it has shaped everything i have done. because of what i have faced, i am the person i am today. i wouldn’t change anything for the world. it has taken me a lot of pain to find peace & start to find true happiness. all of the sobering conversations i have had with myself, when i would cry about shit that was happening in my life, it all has a purpose. that purpose could be as simple as saying this & then it helps one human out there. if it does that, maybe my purpose has been fulfilled. not sure, but either way that’s how i think of it!! i also feel a freedom now with everything i’m creating. i find expressing myself so much easier. because i know myself a lot better. now that i’ve taken a lot of my shadows out of the closet to face, i can be free-er. it feels great!

Who are your favourite Aussie artists? What music inspires you?

i like a lot of the pop underground stuff coming out of the states at the moment. chelsea cutler, jeremy zucker, lany, gracie abrams, sasha sloan. all so dope. from australia, my home, kid laroi is a star. he’s doing a lot for australia. i think ruel is a stud, matt corby is a musician that i was fortunate enough to collaborate with & he is just a truly talented person. probably one of the most gifted all around musicians i will meet in the world.

 What does 2020 have in store for you musically?

i have a lot of music coming out!! i’m excited to show different sides of me, i’m fortunate to be able to release music & so i’m just enjoying putting out layers. i have more acoustic performances that i’m recording for the new songs coming out. i have music video’s dropping. hope u love it <3.

Where can we find your music?

u can find me on social media!! ( below :) ). thank u for the interview - this was a lot of fun & i’m grateful for ur time.

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INTERVIEW: DAMON FROM ALIENIST TALKS NEW SINGLE, COVID TIMES, AND FAVE LOCAL ACTS

Picking up the support slot for Northlane and Gravemind on your home turf after only playing a handful of gigs is not a bad way to begin your bands career! Wollongong’s Alienist got to do just that earlier this year. Having released one single Social Faker back in October the guys were ready to take on the metalcore world when Covid struck laying to rest gigs for the foreseeable future.

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How did Alienist come about and where did the name come from?
We haven’t been around for too long, only about one year. We formed from a failed cover band and decided we wanted to start writing our own music so it just kind of started from there.

We had a massive list of names that we all thought of and through the process of eliminating the lame and taken names, we landed on Alienist. We thought it was fitting because of the psychological analysis definition, and we tend to do that with our lyrics, about the world and society anyway.

You’ve all been in bands before then?
Yeah, we’ve all played music here and there for a long time. A couple of us have more experience in touring and bands than what I do, but we are all experienced in different ways. We got started and released our first single Social Faker and then started playing gigs in October 2019,

And then you score supporting Northlane and Gravemind!
That’s right. I think we had only played 3, maybe 4 shows and then Social Faker was in a competition run by Unearthed that I think got added automatically and yeah we got a call from triple j and they asked us if we wanted to play with Northlane and Gravemind on the Wollongong leg, so that was pretty insane.

You’ve recently released a new single. Tell me about Severance.
While we were gigging we just kept writing and adding songs to the set list. Severance was a later one that we wrote for the setlist before the Northlane gig.  After Northlane, we decided to take it to the studio and record it. We’ve been going to the same producer Clay Segelov, at The Brain Recording Studios, in Sydney.

The song itself is about something that we all feel, separating yourself from the world, there’s a lot of ideologies and things like that that the world likes to portray and support that a lot of us just don’t agree with.  It’s even more relevant now because we all know that unfortunately the world isn’t in a great place at the moment. Sometimes you just need to take a step back , you know, cut yourself off from the world,  look at yourself, and take that time to not get involved in all the drama, the horrible things that are going on at the time.

Who does most of the writing for you guys?
Mostly me, I have a whole set up at home and usually I’ll write a lot most nights on my own. There’s probably dozens and dozens of songs worth of material there but you know we sort of scrape through that and make sure we pick the best parts.  We also like to get together and have a couple of the boys come over and I’ll play guitar, but we’ll bounce off of each other with ideas. Jake does his drums parts, he’s an incredible drummer, and then the lyrics I’ll do with my screamer and that’s pretty much what we do. We practice every single week, make sure that we jam out the songs so they’re perfectly tight. We just love playing together. Even if we didn’t play in the band together, in terms of gigs, I think we would still get together every week just ‘cause we love each other so much

So you guys have known each other for years?
I met Anthony and Chris only a couple of years ago but Lachlan, Jake and I have been friends for a very long time, since school.  Since then though, all the experiences we have shared, it doesn’t matter how long we have known each other I suppose. I can’t imagine being in a band where you’re not great friends. The band is definitely a family, were brothers.

In a post-covid world if Alienist could tour with any other Australian acts who would be in your line-up?
Oh, that’s hard, there are so many Australian bands that we look up to.

Polaris – in terms of writing and influence they are up there for us in that regard. Northlane, Gravemind, Alpha Wolf, Make Them Suffer would definitely be up there, Dealer would be amazing. They are definitely the ones that stand out.

Covid doesn’t seem to have stopped a lot of bands from releasing new music.
Yeah, as much as covid sucks it’s been really good for bands in terms of their online presence and listening numbers, and hopefully it’s given everyone a chance to write a lot more music and spend time perfecting the craft and the sound. It’s really good to see how much everybody cares about the music in the industry.

Everyone is bringing it in the scene at the moment. In Hearts Wake are killing it with their new stuff, and DVSR are starting to release their stuff, and obviously Justice For The Damned with their new album. They’ve adopted a much heavier hardcore type sound it’s pretty insane.  All the new releases are just insane actually, there’s no flops at the moment.

I’m really looking forward to seeing what Windwaker release, I know they’ve been working really hard. They have a very unique sound, and even though they have softer bits as soon as they hit with the hard-heavy guitar riffs, the stuff they write …  it’s just incredible

I’ve also noticed that a lot of overseas radio shows and the like have picked up Australian releases and are spinning them.
Yeah we got picked up by a few people in the UK and the US. It’s really nice to see that they are looking at the smaller bands in the metalcore scene and just picking them up regardless of country.

What does post-covid look like for you guys?
Post-covid is hopefully incredibly busy. During covid we recorded a song in collaboration with a rapper in isolation. We did it remotely with our producer over zoom calls. That is hopefully going to come out in next month. We’ve been working tirelessly on our EP that we are going to record in the next couple of months. Obviously waiting patiently for venues to re-open and hopefully jump on a tour or jump on a lot of shows. Hopefully, we will have an EP out by the end of the year, and a music video and a single, and we’ll just keep pushing this train and hopefully get somewhere with it.

I’m so keen for post-covid shows, seeing as there won’t be any overseas acts for a while I’m hoping for some pretty sick line-ups to tour together.
I’m so excited for it all to start up again too.  Hopefully by Sept/Oct we will be back in the swing of things.

Finally, what are your top 3 Aussie acts at the moment?
Number one would have to be Polaris. I get more drawn to the melodic-djenty sound that’s going on at the moment so for me personally it would also be Thornhill, Alpha Wolf or Make Them Suffer.

ALIENIST ARE:
Vocals - Lachlan Forsberg
Guitar - Damon Renes
Guitar - Anthony Vella
Bass - Chris Olliffe
Drums - Jake Ceely



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INTERVIEW: DAVID FREELAND CHATS ABOUT LUNE’S LATEST RELEASE, GHOST

Melbourne’s Lune released their debut EP Ghost this week and are even about to hit 100k streams on Spotify for the title track. Our new writer Suze caught up with Lune’s guitarist David Freeland for a chat;

Hey David thanks for taking the time to chat with us. For those unaware, can you tell us a bit about Lune.
We are a relatively new band, a couple of us are from other bands (Blind Oracle, I, Valiance) and a couple of us aren’t but we have all been around in the music scene for a while. Our first single, Ghost, came out in November 2019 we followed up with 2 shows. A release show for Ghost with In Vanity, Vatic and Advocates and a bushfire relief show with BLKLST, Foxblood and The City. We are keen for some more but for obvious reasons it’s not really happening at the moment. This project has been in the works for about 2 years or so.  

Tell us about that.
Nathaniel wrote all the lyrics and Krys did pretty much all the music on this project.  On the new stuff we will be writing collaboratively The project kind of came about as a side project for Krys so I wasn’t initially involved but a lot of it was done by Jamie Marinos and Krys then I came in later and added my production elements and Nathaniel did the vocals. So with the influence kind of stuff I think they just range from all your classic heavy bands , I can only speak for myself but a lot of like the prog metal stuff from the early 2010’s Periphery, Tesseract, and then your classics like Metallica, Slipknot and Slayer.

You’ve melded your sound; you guys don’t quite sit in a specific genre.
That’s the plan, it’s humbling to hear someone say that, it makes me feel good, like feel somewhat accomplished that we fit outside of some sort of category genre that someone has created in their mind.

I guess we are jumping onto some sort of new wave of metal. It’s probably difficult to come up with classifications for this stuff in real time, a lot of that stuff comes up in retrospect. I guess for the time being the less expectations about the way the trend is going the better, we can just completely approach it with a fresh mind.

I’m a big fan of bands that sit outside the norm of specific genres and are happy to experiment with their sound.
That’s what I’ve always strived to do, unclassifiable essentially, as much as possible but then again if someone wanted to call us metalcore, deathcore or whatever then that’s fine as well. It’s not something I personally subscribe to though. If it helps people understand it. If it gets us on a Spotify metalcore playlist then that’s fine by me!

It would have been tricky with covid because you haven’t been able to do shows and gauge a following…
Yeah it has been. The only thing you get to see is comments on social media and reading reviews and stuff its really impossible to translate that into a metric that you can comprehend

You’re not far off hitting 100k streams for Ghost on Spotify. Where you expecting that sort of response?
Yeah that’s real surprising. No way, nothing like that. Because Krys and I used to play in I, Valiance we were expecting a little bit of boost off the back of that but nothing like 100k streams. That track has surpassed most of the songs I’ve released in my 7 years!

You’ll be keen to get into live shows once restrictions are lifted..
We are talking about it. We have one member from Newcastle, Harrison our drummer, so it would pretty much be a situation where he would have to road trip it down depending on the situation. It’s also dependant on whether it’s safe to do so. We are looking at doing a Melbourne launch show as a starting point, we obviously had dates and stuff planned to go with the EP release which won’t happen, that’s all been canned. So, we are pretty much just going to take it one show at a time.

What are your plans for release day?
I’m taking the day off work and will probably meet up with the guys and take it from there. I guess then we’ll jump back in the studio and keep working on the new tracks. We’re always writing that’s what we like to do

So, you have more songs in the works for another EP, or an album or just a few single releases?
Again, it’s hard to gauge what people’s reactions will be because there are no tours or shows or anything like that. Depending on if shows start to free up and the momentum we gain from the EP, we’ll probably look to follow it up with a couple of singles. We have an album’s worth of material, but we don’t want to release it all too soon. It’s impossible to know really. I’d like to say we’ll have another couple of tracks out because we have been writing so much. The stuff that we have already written but not released on Ghost feels old already so we just kind of want to get it out there. We’ll probably talk to someone who knows what they are doing to work out a plan.

There are a few bands that are going down the single release path.
Yeah look I admire the art of the album but the thrill of having multiple releases days a year is very appealing as well. To continually assert our relevance especially right now with the way things are.

I think you guys will be okay after tomorrow, there’s been a lot of talk about this EP!
I hope so. Yeah that’s real humbling even seeing all the pre-orders come through on Bandcamp and stuff it’s just so much more than what I expected. We are literally such a puny band and we haven’t been around for even a year! The response has been so good.

To finish off what are 3 of your top Australian acts at the moment?
Justice for the Damned – They have a new album out this week too (Pain is Power) I’ve toured with them back in the day and I know they put on a great show. They work extremely hard and are one of those bands where they just get everything right and now they are getting the payoff from that.

Alpha Wolf – I’ve pre-saved their new album (a quiet place to die). I’ve toured with Mitch a lot and played tonnes of shows with them. We’re pretty close with those guys. Big respect for them they work hard as well.

King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard -I’ve got the new live King Gizzard album Chunky Shrapnel that just came out. They are probably my most favourite Australian band I froth them so much.

LUNE's debut EP 'Ghost' is available everywhere now HERE and on BANDCAMP

LUNE are
Nathaniel Smith - Vocals
Krys Smith - Guitar
David Freeland - Guitar
Tyler Hendley - Bass
Harrison Mills - Drums

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INTERVIEW: ON THE PHONE WITH PROG METAL LOCALS, RELIQA

Sydney’s Reliqa have had a massive year. From supporting Sevendust when they toured, to playing Big Sound in Brisbane, and making the Good Things Festival band final. Things aren’t slowing down for them either. Recently releasing new single “Mr Magic” early in May, which is one of the standout single releases this year, the band has now signed with Destroy All Lines Agency.

I caught up with Reliqa vocalist Monique Pym.

Congratulations on your recent signing with Destroy All Lines Agency.
It’s awesome, so cool. Basically, it happened the day we released Mr Magic, or maybe the day before. That must have sparked something, I don’t know exactly how it came about but we received an email and spoke to Bailey Graham who is our booking manager over there. He has been super awesome so far. It’s fantastic to work with someone, and a company, that you have respected for a long time. Bailey is really on the ball and is genuinely passionate about our music too which is something important to us. He’s on top of his game and I really respect that.

You have some talented bands on the bill with you.
There is such a diverse range on there. We’re working in the realm of the more progressive side of stuff. That was never really a realm of music that I had explored until lately. A lot of people have been calling us progressive, that’s a title that has been a little bit thrust upon us but I’m okay with that. And considering that’s kind of our umbrella genre now I’ve been discovering bands like Circles, Dead Letter Circus who we have known for a long time and Ebonivory who we share the roster with. We played with them towards the end of last year, they are genuine guys and extremely talented.

I am loving Mr Magic. It’s probably my single of the year so far. Where did the concept come from?
Mr Magic was the first time we really approached a song that was fully fleshed out from a personal perspective rather than our previous music that has been very conceptual, and storytelling based. We decided to make a conscious effort to step in a different direction this time. To write something that is important to us on a more topical scale. It came about when the bushfires were happening over the summer period. It was a time of absolute crisis for the whole country and when you’re in a vulnerable position you look to the people in power and say how are you going to help us through this? What sort of navigation are you going to give us moving out of the crisis? You get angry when they don’t respond in a responsible way. I don’t need to name names, but we know someone who was spending some time outside of the country… Not to get too political but it is absolutely driven by things like that. I am going to mention this though - there’s a lyric in the song that kind of hits the nail on the head. I’ve never really spoken about it, specifically in that realm. At the end of the song there’s a lyric that says, “I’ve got a trick for you, play on your perilous act, I’ll watch you disappear, at any minor setback.” That was the one where I was like Boom!!

You’re trying to demand accountability from these people who have the power, they have the platform and they have the listeners to really do the right thing. You rely on them to do that but time and time again they really let their people down. The song really comes from a place of anger.

What’s going on now in America is absolutely telling to how we were feeling in Australia at that time. You want someone to look up to, to do something and guide us through.

That’s their job!
Yes, you’re right. I get a little fired up about it. I’ve been trying to stay as switched on as I can. While all of us have been in a place where we are looking to someone to help us a lot of us haven’t been in the situation of being completely oppressed by the police state and things like that. You’ve just got to say something. If you have any sort of power, influence or platform to put out a message then it’s time to use it. I think that’s really where the song came from.

Hopefully, we can use some of this crisis and really make sure that this thing won’t happen again, I’m not talking about the virus because that may well happen again. I’m talking systemised oppression and things like that. If these things are still happening in 2020 then we can’t let them happen in 2021 and so forth. We need to stay switched on and be willing to listen and learn.

And to speak up and call people out
Exactly. I read somewhere that being not-racist isn’t enough anymore, you need to be against racism. To call out the people who are saying and doing the wrong thing. If we’re tying it back to the song and the motivation to the song it’s about all of us having accountability, not just the people in power. We all have accountability to do the right thing. It’s a bit of a call to that.

What does the future look like for you guys? Is there an album in the works?
There are a few things on the table. We are definitely working as hard as we can. We have discussed the idea of a larger release like an EP or album and we are excited to jump into that but at the same time we are taking this time to experiment with out release strategy a little bit. It’s something we’ve really thought about coming into 2020.

There are bands like RedHook, who have inspired us. They have done some amazing things, touring internationally and major festivals, and if you look at the music they have out, it’s all singles. It makes you think how incredible that is. I admire them because they are such hard workers.

We want to see how we go with a few singles first, gauge the interest for an album.  Any artist knows an album is such an amazing intricate piece of work, you invest so much. And we are used to writing conceptually too and we really like doing that. We have two English majors in the band so writing narratives and stories is something which interests us.

Meanwhile we are going to focus on working with Destroy All Lines, getting some solid shows lined up, hopefully some festivals, and using those singles as a consistent steady flow for us until we are ready to release an album.

The last 18 months have been massive for Reliqa. What would be your most memorable moment?
We were thinking about this recently. When you sit down and look back, the last 12 months have been big for us. It’s been exciting so it’s hard to pinpoint just one. I would probably say my personal moment with Reliqa is Big Sound 2019. Travelling on the road with my band was so much fun and so ridiculous. Being able to play outside of our comfort zone in Brisbane, where we hadn’t hit until then. Discovering that we had a whole fan base up there we didn’t realise we had. We had so much praise it was surreal, it was like ‘Is this really happening ‘. The Elephant Hotel, which was night three, was particularly special. We had a great crowd and it was an outdoor venue, like your typical festival. It was a perfect set up. I got off stage and actually cried a little bit, which I never do. We had support from a bunch of people that I got to meet for the first time too. Shout out to Browny from Wall of Sound!

That’s how I discovered you! He put up a post about you guys.
He makes me so happy. He’s such a dedicated guy. I remember meeting him the first night of Big Sound. I looked out for him. When we found each other, we had the most massive bear hug!! It was such a special moment. And meeting Tim Price and Ophelia Symons for the first time too. It’s more of a personal thing getting to have a milestone like that but even from a band perspective it was pretty massive.

What are your top 3 Aussie artists right now?
Northlane - I had a hard time getting into Northlane to begin with. You know they’re one of those bands that you want to like but it just didn’t click. The last year Alien came out and I was like far out this is a whole different realm of music that I haven’t heard from them before. Maybe I just wasn’t listening enough or properly. I feel like that album really clicked with me and I’ve been obsessed with it since. It’s been a massive influence for me. Instrumentally, Mr Magic’s chorus was kind of inspired by Bloodline. Enemy of the Night blew me away. I really admire and respect their confidence to be able to be so raw and so real with their lyrics. It really hits close to home for a lot of people

RedHook – RedHook are definitely one of them. The first time we ever played together was supporting Sevendust last year. She was an idol for me, she is such a legend. We became friends and we have played with them a few times throughout 2019. I admire what they do, I went into that earlier. Testing the water with a different approach through releasing singles, especially as it’s kind of taboo in the metal industry. A lot of heavy music fans want albums and bigger releases so to try the single style is quite interesting. I think they are doing it justice and I admire them for that.

Voyager- You can’t go past Voyager; They are doing some unique and awesome things. When I first listened to their new album ‘Colours in the Sun’ I was blown away. You know when you find the music and you’re like right that’s it, that’s me in a nutshell, that’s my sound. The mood I was in and what I was feeling, I chucked on the album and Colours started playing. I was like YES! I got up and danced around and got crazy to it. I’ve been listening to their music avidly since then. I always mention them when asked who inspires you or has a sound you want to reach. Voyager hands down really take that title. We got to play with them in Sydney last year which was really cool. I’d really like to reconnect with them sometime in the future, I’d love to play with them again.

Thanks so much to Monique for her time and awesome words. Check Out Mr. Magic and their previous releases now, and keep an eye out for more!

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OLY SHERMAN’S ULTIMATE ISOLATION PLAYLIST

We’ve already heard the sort of vibes Sydney songwriter Oly Sherman has been working with for 2020 on his January release, ‘Madness’, and now we’re getting more insights into this talented musician’s building stock of work. Releasing his new single ‘Homeboy’ this month, Sherman swathes polished songwriting in slick production and indie influences. Another strong step forward for Sherman, ‘Homeboy’ is one of his most intimate offerings yet.

That in mind, check out his top 10 tracks for getting you through to remaining iso times!

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Vernal Pools by oso leone

• I knew of the band a fair while ago but have just recently got back into their sound. What particularly grabs me about their music, is how clean their drum grooves are. 

War of My Life by John Mayer

• Again, another song which I’ve known for a while. I remember listening to this song in my bed on holidays with my family. I feel like this stuff from John is super underrated, and his song writing, especially within this track, really influences my own. 

LA Egypt by Vinyl Williams

• Completely out of the realm in regard to the music I release, but I love this band. It really doesn’t get more psyche rock than these guys at the moment, and they are always constantly releasing music. 

Keep It Low by Hablot Brown

• A band I discovered whilst on tour. I fell in love with the Hablot boys music so quickly. They are super vast musicians, and they know how to make a beat. I’ve pretty much vibed with most of their songs in the last month or so. 

Chemicals by SG Lewis

• The man can write no wrong. SG is always my go to guy for a vibe. As soon as I heard the synth hook on this song I was completely sold, and could not stop telling anyone about it. 

She Don’t Have to Know by John Legend

• Again, I’ve been going back into the archives a lot recently, and this song is always stuck on my mind. Probably something that I didn’t notice or admit much at first, By John Legend would also have to be one of my biggest influences. 

Straightfaced by Spacey Jane

• I had actually heard this bands name floating around for a while now but never actually managed to listen to any of their music. I heard this song on the radio, and loooved the ending. The rest of the song with the lyrics made the rest of my mind up. 

10th Avenue by Charli Adams

• Another recent discovery, I really love how Charli’s vocals fold into each other, and blend so easily, without sounding like she’s trying at all. Big ups on this song. 

Fools by Drugdealer 

• Love this song for its super 70’s feel. I always chuck this band on when I’m doing chores.

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INTERVIEW: ASHENMOON’S GARRY BEERS - NEW MUSIC, THE CURRENT WORLD CRISIS, & LIFE AFTER INXS

I had a wonderful chat with Garry Beers, bassist of world-renowned Australian rock band INXS and now, Ashenmoon!
Personally, I grew up listening to INXS and handfuls of other classics, some of which are also thrown in throughout the interview, and this might just be the biggest interview I’ve done. Garry was a wonder to talk to and I can’t wait to see what else Ashenmoon has in store for us.

We covered the new releases and the writing process, the effects of the current COVID situation, environmentalism and dog rescue, his high school dance featuring AC/DC, life during and after INXS, and a bunch more.

It was a phone interview so I’ve culled sections down to what makes most sense, but my appreciation for this experience is astronomical. Thankyou to Garry, Toby, and Jimmy, and everyone else involved for bringing this new project to life, and for Garry’s time chatting to me from wherever he may be at the moment!

Enjoy!
-Jahmiele

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JAHMIELE:
So Ashenmoon started as a ‘passion project’ between you and Jimmy and Toby, and ‘passion project’ is a kind of a favourite term of mine. Was there any deliberate intention going into that to make it a fully published act or was it sort of just ‘let's have fun and see where this goes’?

GARRY:
We were already in a corporate covers band called Stadium so it was already fun. We just really wanted to see how we’d go with original material, so we just sort of played together and hung out more. We listen to each other's bits of music and songs and, and um, and then beginning of last year was just in my little home studio which is where we started everything. Yeah. Just spent the whole year just putting together the songs, honing them and rewriting them and starting all over again and talking about just, just taking our time. There's no one watching the clock. It's just made the record that we really wanted to make, all 3 of us.

J: Yeah. Awesome. I think, I guess that's probably the best way to go about it. No pressure,

G: Exactly! There’s no record companies breathing down our neck, the no deadlines, and yeah obviously no real touring schedule to keep in line with. I think we'd all been looking for someone to write once in a while. I know I had.

J: Okay. Amazing. And the debut for Ashenoon came out as the double single. Was there any kind of background between each of those tracks? Like I know a lot of songs aren't necessarily written with a particular dramatic meaning behind them, but was there anything like that with these ones?

G: Yeah. It just all this happens to be pretty indicative of what we wanted to say about, y’know looking after the world, looking after each other and look what happened. I mean, it just seemed to be a pretty bit of a no-brainer to get that one out now. And Mosquito, you know, Toby's Australian, he’s from Melbourne, and he just had the big fuzz bassline and my little singing, and that all came together and sounded a bit like a mosquito, someone actually commented saying it sounded like Cartman from South Park! He just grabbed the acoustic and started writing the song and it became Mosquito. We wanted to write a song about, a metaphor for mosquitos.

And we keep using the word ‘organic’ but it really was that way. I produced it and recorded it, and Toby at that time was living just up the road, and Jimmy was always here with a bottle of red wine anyway. We just sat in that little room, day and night and had fun, recording guitars here and there, laying down keyboard. A friend of mine owns a studio up the road, we got an English fella called Jason Gamble in to play drums on the majority of the album, so you know it just really grew like good music should grow. I mean, there's no deadline no pressure, the songs just came to life by themselves

J: Yeah. That's amazing. And I take it that you previously knew Toby before all of this. How has it working together on something like this? Do you prefer working with someone or on your own when it comes to song-writing and putting things together?

G: No, I'm definitely a working with someone kind of guy. I mean, I do write a lot of music but as far as you know, vocals and melodies and lyrics, I'd much rather leave it up to a real singer, a real composer. I met Toby 3 years ago at a party so the friendship is still pretty new, but became pretty much best mates. I met Jimmy at a party when I first moved here 14 or 15 years ago, so I’ve known him forever but we never got around to playing in a band together, so I asked him to join Stadium my corporate band. And then he joined and Toby joined. We wanted to see how far we could take it, and rename it because we wanted it to be different again, so we became Ashenmoon and here we are!

J: All right! And knowing so many names, like you would have worked with a lot of people over the years, and coming into the new ‘modern era’ of technology with the different ways of promotion we have now and all that kind of thing- what is it that you've seen change over the last, what is it, 30-40 years, something like that?

G: Yeah, it's been a while. Um, you know, it's funny you look back and you miss the age of CDs, and CDs replaced vinyl. I’ll always complain about downloads, seeing how the qualities isn’t great, and you don’t get the visual. Like I remember vinyl records as a kid, sitting there and pouring over every word and every image on the album cover while listening to the music, and I feel like it’s a forgotten art in many ways so, you’re hearing the first few singles but when you hear the whole album later in the year it’s a journey just like the good old, you know, Zeppelin records, Queen records, every song had its place. You know, we worked out which song goes to the next song and their running order and then it’s got side 1 and side 2 just like the old-fashioned records. When it’s out and you hear it on vinyl you’ll get the real idea of what it’s all about.

J: I'm sure you've probably been asked this already, but is there any kind of meaning behind the band name, Ashenmoon, where did that come from?

G: I think it's just an interesting visual image, really lending itself to artwork, but it's also got a really big sorta quality to it, and then also we wrote Dustbowl about how we know we abuse the planet, we abuse animals, we abuse each other, and what we’ll be left with is pretty much just a barren planet, so I guess it's a bit of a downer way of what describing it, but I think ultimately it's just, it just sounded cool. And then we did all this stuff ourselves. We found an artist when I went to our Facebook page, and Toby did a lot of the artwork, and then I did the graphics for the actual name, I used to do graphic design at school. So, it’s been a real, at home kind of project. And a friend of Jimmy’s, that he played in a band with at school back in Massachusetts, mixed the album so he's been a really strong part of the project as well. So, it's been a really good team and a really good time.

J: So, you've mentioned a couple times now the whole environmental effect that we're having and things like that. Is that something that you're personally passionate about?

G: Yeah, I am. I mean I'm more into my life and particularly more into dog rescue and finding homes for dogs. A real big issue is humans just don't get it. I mean, they just don't get it that the planets gonna give us a big kick in the ass that’s what it’s doing right now. You don’t eat bats, you just don't abuse animals. Mother Nature is just gonna, y’know, take you out. I mean, that's, what's going on now. It's taken an interesting turn. I mean, you see the planet’s actually recovering a bit because people aren't driving, industries are shut, the planet’s kind of having a bit of a breather right now. So, maybe there's a good side yet.

J: Yeah. There's a lot of things they've already seen, you know, positively changed since we've been absent.

G: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No one knows what the future's going to hold, I don't think you can ever get back to normal. We just have to see what, what we have to adjust to in the rest of their lives. I mean, it's interesting I have 8-9 year old twins and like there obviously not in school, we're failing miserably at the home-schooling thing. But it's just, it's just interesting time for that. I mean, they’ll look back at their second-third grade as the weirdest time in history, so I'm just really intrigued to see what's going to happen as the world tries to get back to what we’d considered as normal, you really can’t go back to what was normal anymore.

J: Yeah. I think there's a thing going around at the moment that was, uh, comparing what our, our prior our previous normal was and that we shouldn't go back to that because that's gotten us where we are.

G: Yeah. I think, that’s totally it. Totally. Ultimately, they’ve been talking about it for years that there’s gonna be a super-virus. Here it is and you have no idea what it is, what it’s going to do and where it’s gonna go and I mean, it seems like it’s a lot better in Australia out here, and that's just phenomenal.

I’ve been saying I’m just happy to have music out at this time because I've always thought music is a good healer. Music is always there for people when they’re happy or sad. So I'm just hoping Ashenmoon can help with that and maybe take people's minds off what's going on a bit.

J: And you’ve been quoted as saying that ‘not since your days with INXS, have you felt more connected to music until this’, this record and this band, I guess. What is it about this particular project that you feel so much more connected than your previous supergroups and things like that?

G: Well INXS was a six piece, um, you know, Andrew and Michael were the predominant songwriters ofcourse , that's just the way it is when we got two of the best songwriters in the world in your band.

Absent Friends with Wendy Mathews and Sean. Um, was just, that was just a fun band, you know, party band, that was a fun project too. And then the other time I tried to get a project I was called Mudhead, but they never released the album. It got a 5 star review but just didn’t release it, it became too hard.

I haven't really found the right people to write with and that I believe in. And that gives me the confidence to put all my time and effort into something that I know is going to be worth it, and that's what happened here. Toby has become one of my best friends. He's a good Aussie guy. Jimmy, I've known him for 15 years. He's one of my best friends. He's from Boston, he's a character. He's always got his bottle of red wine in his back pocket, and he’s just there to play. It's just kind of the same ideals that I've always had. I just want to play, I've always wanted to, so it's great to find like-minded people that still love music. A lot of people lose the passion for it. I couldn't imagine not being passionate about it and not playing, so, it’s great that I’ve got a new outlet and I’m loving it.

J: Fantastic. I guess that's a little bit more difficult to come by these days, is the genuine passion for it.

G: Yeah. And think I'm very lucky. When I was growing up deciding which Zepplin album to buy, you know, Zepplin, Deep Purple, and Queen were all releasing records and The Beatles were still releasing records. So I was really lucky to grow up in that time and be completely surrounded by amazing and also Australian bands. I mean, AC/DC played at my school dance so there's really, there's no experience like that. I just think having had that experience, I can't not be passionate about music and I think Jimmy's the same.

Jimmy did this beautiful thing, he started writing a big piece of paper with all these names and songs and I was like ‘What’re you doing?’ and he said ‘I'm just writing down which guitar player is gonna play on this record’ and it did a list of all his favourite guitar players, which considers that they all influenced him and taught him how to play, you know all the Jimmy Page’s and Jimmy Hendrix’s and he wanted to give them credit, so he sat there and wrote down all the names. I thought ‘that’s really cool!’ because you gotta remember where you came from and that's what we're all about too. We're just trying to put out a record that the people that inspired us would like to hear. And I know that if another band put this record out, I‘d love it just as much, but just because it's mine and I’m writer, producer, you know, I'm very connected with it and very proud of it.

J: Well, all of the acts that you've been a part of - I've had a quick listen to Absent Friends and things like that - they all definitely seemed to have a particular sort of cohesive similar sound to them, and so does Ashenmoon, I think. So, who would you say are the primary inspirations and influences that you've had that have added up to these creations?

G: I guess it changes. I mean, I'm really kind of boring in the fact that it's very rare that I hear something new that is, that inspires me or doesn't make me just go back to wherever we originally came from. I mean, it's kind of sad, but I mean the last artist that really, really changed my world was Jeff Buckley, and that was a long time ago now. So, I always go back to the Zepplins and the Queens and all the bands that you still would be hearing in 50 years’ time. And I don't know if you’ll be hearing many of artists on the radio now in 50 years time, but you'll always be hearing the Beatles and queen and hopefully Ashenmoon. I mean, we just want to make a record that was like, that was a good old fashioned record that just takes you on a trip. So I think we've done that.

J: And you mentioned, I think right at the start, something about, in terms of putting together your records and not currently having to keep to like a touring schedule or something like that. Does that mean that we are to expect some sort of tour from Ashenmoon or anything like that?

G: Oh yeah. We'd love to play it. I mean, we’ve actually we've actually taken this time. We've all been tested (for Covid-19) we all trust each other, you know. So we did a video of Dustbowl on Toby’s rooftop last week. And yesterday we set all of the gear up in my garage, we're going to start doing live broadcasts onto our Facebook pages and stuff. We just spent the day doing that. We're setting up our PA and sound we’re gonna start working that out and start trying to get ourselves out live to people as best we can. As soon as this clears up, if it gets back to any sort of normalcy as far as heading out to play we’ll be there, cause yeah, we got together to play together, we’re not answering ads in the paper or getting drunk at the bar, we just love playing together and we are a really good band live. I mean, I think we're actually probably better live than on the record to be honest.

J: Well, I think that's a good thing.

G: It is. Yeah. I mean, nothing more disappointing than seeing a band that can’t play. I ended up with one of the best rock singers in the world and I'm in a band with one of the best rock guitarists in the work so I'm pretty happy.

J: Well, to be perfectly candid you are, you are all clearly to a certain extent, you know, famous and very well-known and incredibly talented musicians and individuals. So, what is it like having that background/reputation behind you and knowing that there's going to be people waiting for your next thing and knowing that it's got to be, you know, to a certain standard?

G: I always second guess. We really pride ourselves on our performance. INXS was the same, we sort of critiqued every show, that made us better, and Ashenmoon is no different. I mean we love playing and we love playing well and we love playing properly and you know, we’re not one of those bands are gonna stagger out with a bottle of Jack Daniels and not want to give people their value for money, and we obviously also make them come back. And it's not just a side project, we’ve just signed this two-album dissolution deal with Golden Robot Records, we’re just going to keep going. We can't wait to get some more recording done. So even though we just got our first record out we just, I just want to get out there and play. I can't wait to bring it to Australia.

J: Well, that's, that's fantastic. That's the best thing to have, I guess that's exactly what you want.

G: Yeah. I'm pretty happy right now. I mean, as far as an album, I mean I still sort of sit there with a glass of wine still going ‘wow, this is pretty good’. And I’m not being egotistical, I just got the right team because I had the right circumstances and we just pulled it together. We made what we think is our statement, and in the process, we became a band. We had a first proper band meeting today. It’s like being back in school again. I was setting up the garage I was hanging, like cellophane paper behind the band so it looked cool, and it all fell down when I opened the garage door, but yeah, we’re just having a good time.

J: Ah good ol’ days!

G: I mean, yeah, these are the days. These are the days.

J: Well, it's good that you can know that you're creating something that you're proud of.

G: Yeah. And I get caught up with all my critics and my wife, my kids, the whole. It's just funny, because like my kids, they’re growing up. This is ‘Dad’s band’, Ashenmoon, and every now and then they hear and sing INXS and they’re like ‘oh that’s right, Dad’s other band!’ They haven’t really discovered INXS yet, I haven’t really had the time to show it to them.
In fact I'm just discovering all these YouTube sites that have all our videos and all this stuff from live performances I've ever seen before. So, you know, it's just interesting. Actually Toby's the one that does all our social media stuff so he’s the one that’s been sending me the links. In fact, he sent me a link to this, I didn’t even know it existed but Andrew and Michael did and interview on a rooftop in London I think it was. They play a bit of The Stairs, acoustically, and we just latched onto that because I've always wanted have Toby sing The Stairs, that I always thought was one of Michael's best sets of work. So, we did an acoustic version, as per the way Andrew was playing it on the rooftop. So we've just finished that, that’s just been finished now, so that'll be coming out cause we've been getting you could say bored, so we’re doing acoustic versions of all our songs just to give you, but as it turns out we’ll have a heap of original material to put out as well, so, we just can’t help ourselves.

J: And what was life actually like, during and after the INXS era?

G: During was obviously massive. It was my life. I mean, we’d make a record with all our time and we live and breathe that and then we go on tour for sometimes 12 - 18 months, just keep touring the world over and over again, that’s how we lived. And then we have a bit of a break and then do it again. I didn’t have much of a home life. I still managed to have a dog, but I didn’t see much of her. And we did that from high school, so, you know, it was a pretty massive part of my life and I was and always will be very proud of INXS. When that stopped, obviously it was a horrible way for it to stop with Michael, but that was out of my control. I had no, I had no say in it. So me personally, I just sort of went into that ‘she’ll be right mate’ mode.

And Michael’s still around, I still dream about him all the time. He turns up like nothing happened and we start playing again. So, I know I have a guardian angel as well, I think maybe it’s Michael, maybe my dad, but he's still around. That sorta spirit isn’t gonna leave. I've just been kind of concentrating on my, on my personal life since all that happened. Moved to America, fell in love, got kids, you know, so I'm just trying to do that, but then as luck would have it, I meet the Australian singer that I’ve always wanted to meet, at a party in Los Angeles, it’s very L.A. y’know, the whole story.

And we tiptoed into it, we didn’t rush straight into making a record, we got to know each other better and - I'm sitting, watching my dog chew up my kids toys…

Yeah, it's cool. Life. You just take it as it comes around and adapt. It was a horrible way for INXS to end, but also I enjoyed the time of JD Fortune. I mean, that was a pretty good incarnation of the band. We made a great record called Switch, went platinum in America, sold a million records. So, I mean, it wasn't too shabby. Then that stopped so y’know. So, and I remember touring Australia with JD was great. Yeah.

Life’s a journey and I’m just happy to be on it. Above ground, still playing.

J: Well, that's awesome. That's amazing. That's, that's really nice to hear that you've gone on regardless of whatever setbacks and you're doing the best you can, sort of thing.

G: Yeah. You know, my legacy is always gonna be just making music, whether I do it in my garage or I do it on a laptop. I'm just happy to have a band that I can get out and play with.

J: Yup. Okay. Well, I only have one more question... What we try to ask every single person that we interview is; what are your top current top three Australian artists at the moment - they can be old. They can be new, but just Australian artists that you're really in love with right now.

G: No, I'm really out of, out of the loop. As far as Australian bands down there, I spent the last year just concentrating on my stuff. So, I’m probably the wrong person to ask, but I mean,

J: It can be old school stuff!

G: If I'm homesick, I just put on Chisel. Yeah. I play Circus Animals to death. I play Letter To Allen endlessly to all who’ll listen. I was actually was actually in my studio, just the other day with a tech, and I put on Ariel, a band I grew up with when I was a kid and he just thought it was the most amazing thing he’d ever heard. I just always go backwards. I mean, as I said it's hard for me, I'm a bit of a music historian now, I’m a bit anal that way. And I think when I hear something, I go ‘Oh, that's a rip-off of so-and-so’, which I shouldn't say that, I’m sure people would say that about Ashenmoon ‘well Ashenmoon’s a bit of a rip-off isn’t it?’. I just tend to listen to what I listened to and just get on with my day. But yeah, it’s hard to figure out when you’ve got half an hour to listen to some music, it's just hard to not put on old Genesis or…

J: For sure, go with what you know.

G: It’s like pulling on an old pair of jeans.

J: You pick what's comfortable.

G: Yeah. Australia's got some, Billy Thorpe, Richard Clapton and you know, obviously I said Chisel, and Oil and all that stuff, all the bands that influenced us, taught us how to play, you know, some good stuff.

J: Yeah. Okay. Well I think I've already gone over time technically but thank you so much.

G: Oh, you're welcome. It's really nice to talk to you.

J: Yeah, you too. It's great. It's a bit of an idol moment for me, so thank you so much.

G: Can’t wait to bring the band to Australia and be down there and play.

J: I'll definitely be there. Okay. Well thank you. Um, have a nice day!

G: You too, stay safe, see you down the track!

Once again, a huge thanks to John from Golden Robot Records for the opportunity, and to Garry for the fantastic chat. We’ll be waiting for what’s coming next - ‘See you down the track’!

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TRUTH HURTS WITH THE MOTION BELOW

“The Motion Below are back to finish what they started with "Truth Hurts", part two of their mini music series that encapsulates the inner turmoil of a man lost within himself and ultimate descent into madness.”

Jahmiele had a chat to vocalist Ryan Matheson about the release, the process, mental health, how to get the best out of your own band, and whats coming up next. We had a lot more to say so be sure to check out the full interview in the upcoming podcast episode!

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Jahmiele: So, Truth Hurts is the most recent release with the video and everything, and the second half of the series. Why did you decide to do that in a two-parter?
Ryan: We had spoken about doing a multiple part like thing, for quite a few years and um, we just sorta like never got around to actually completing it. And then after we did Chronus complex, um, last year when we went into the studio, we were going in for two singles and we'd spoken about like, like addressing a particular topic and wanting to attack it in like a multiple part series. So me and the boys like had quite a few conversations about it. And, um, Tom and Aidan had this idea that they wanted to address substance, or not necessarily like, uh, um, what's the word? Like addiction, but it wasn't, we didn't want it to be addiction in the sense of like it was particularly substance abuse or any type of like alcohol or drug. We just wanted it to be addiction in like an umbrella term. So it could be multiple things or it could be anything that someone could be dealing with or something like that. 

J: So make them more relatable across the board.

R: Yeah, exactly. So the main thing was we wanted it to be particularly about the vicious cycle of addiction though. So even though like it wasn't necessarily about substance, it sort of loosely was based on that particular concept of someone being addicted to substance. So sorta how people or people will be addicted to whatever it is and their daily life will be based around solely that particular thing that they do. So whether it's drugs or alcohol, they'll go through the cycle of getting up on any day that you will usually sleep in for majority of the day. Go about doing a few things and then end up reverting back to the substance, so the substance rules their life. And then from there, you know, they sort of, in like the story, the protagonist knows that he's addicted to something and the substance is ruling his life and you can visually see it in the music videos that he's struggling with that fact. And even though he's trying to free himself from the chains of addiction, he can't and he feels ostracized from the rest of the world and paranoid I guess. And because of that he ends up just drawing back to being addicted to something and ends up basically losing his mind because of that.

J: One of the things I kind of picked up in the music video was when he went to walk out the front door and saw someone, it was kind of like a confrontation he didn't want to deal with. 

R: Yeah. Basically. It was pretty much, yeah. He felt like as soon as he went to walk out the door, he felt like the rest of the world was sort of like just, you know, everyone was looking at him, is basically the deal. So, he feels like as soon as he leaves his comfort zone, which is his own, his own house, um, he feels as if he's being ostracized from the rest of the world and everyone is sorta just judging him from a distance, I guess. And that's why in the video he ends up just turning back around and going straight back into the house where there's nobody else. 

J: And what would be like the ideal message you'd like to convey when talking about all of these things to your audience?
R: I guess in a positive sense it would be to try and make sure that if someone is in that position, then I guess try not to do what we sort of orchestrated in the video and actually reach out to people. And you know, even though if you feel like you are being ostracised from the world, there's always someone that's going to be there that's gonna want to listen to you and gonna want to help you. Like, all you have to do is ask for help.

We obviously don't want to send the message out to people that ‘this is what you should do’, it was more sort of like, we want it to orchestrate, we wanted to attack that message in a way that, you know, people could relate to it in a personal way and then hopefully they would obviously do something positive about it.

J: Yeah, for sure. The videos for Dead End and Truth Hurts were both directed by Martin Wood. He's worked with a bunch of amazing local bands including some friends of mine. It all looks amazing, but what was it like working with Martin?
R: He’s so easy to work with. He's such a good dude and he just like, he just has the knack, he knows what his vision is and how to attack it. So we first met Martin when we shot our previous music videos with Colin Jeffs, and Martin assisted on those videos. So that's how we kind of met him. And then when we did the singles we wanted to work with him because we had already worked with him before and because he's Melbourne based as well. So that was kind of why, but working with him in general, like we told him what we wanted, what the vision was and how we wanted them to come out and he just took that idea and then just, just basically everything, the whole video, like all of it was his idea.  We sat down with him on a phone call one night and he was like, ‘This is what I've got’, like ‘this is what I think we want to, how we want to do it’. And you know, ‘this is the setting that I've got’. And even with Dead Ends, the idea of having that backdrop behind us while we’re playing, and you can visually see that it's clearly a backdrop we’re playing in front of, that was all his idea as well. He took ideas from different band concepts and music videos that he's seen in the past and worked on, and we sort of took those and tried to, I guess use it in our own way. And like all of the story in the actual videos themselves, all of that - he shot it all obviously, but the way that the actor sort of portrayed himself in the character, that was basically like just him. We just sorta just like stood there and watched and we were like, ‘Yeah, man, that's cool. Like your ideas are great. We trust you.’ Pretty much. So yeah, it's really good. he's really, really good to work with.

J: So where did the original interest in metal in particular come from? What are your roots?
R: I guess when I first started playing music I personally was like more of a rock fan, like I was always playing Green Day covers and stuff like that. And then as I guess I sorta got that into music and got a little bit older, obviously spanned out to like Escape The Fate and Parkway Drive and all that kind of stuff in high school. And I just sort of went from there. My first band we started when I was in Year 12 I think, we were more like a death core/melodic metal core band. All the inspiration from back then was definitely like those, you know, early two thousands, post-hardcore bands like Bullet For My Valentine, Escape The Fate, Parkway Drive, all that kind of stuff. And I'm sure the rest of the boys would agree, like we all pretty much have the same sort of roots there.

J: I think you'd also been asked a similar question to this before, but it's a few years later. Um, what important things have you learned in more recent years as a band? Are you still doing what you set out to do? Have you got like different perspectives or anything has changed?
R: I think, um, like the vision was always from the start- So obviously like the name itself, The Motion Below, like we always felt like we were sorta like the underdogs. We always wanted to be the band that sorta come out from underneath from nowhere, creating waves, you know, whether it's in a local level or not, that slowly emerges through, you know what I mean? And like over the years, like most of the bands that were around when we first started aren’t even around anymore. And I think that sort of goes to show, I guess in a sense, out of determination and like what we originally set out to do. I suppose like from the beginning, we went through a phase where we tried to do everything DIY and you know, like, I guess, I don't know, we sort of tried to do things where we tried to save as much money as we could.  

And no matter how hard you do it, it works for some bands, but if you try and DIY everything, it just doesn't work. You need to put the money into the band, into the right places, you know, to make the content, make those music videos, make the band sound good in the studio and take the time to make sure all those things will make you look good. Especially online like these days. Especially like obviously in the music industry and especially now with everything going on. Your online presence is everything. And if you know, someone sees you online and you have a really crappy image, you have poor quality music, your music videos aren't produced well, all that stuff, It takes away from your band and who you are. And we have definitely learnt, especially through all the process of like basically through the cycle of Chronus Complex, doing everything right and putting the money into those particular things, Like PR studio, all of the content that you create, it is really important. And we personally ourselves have seen the results putting that money in, in the last year than we have before that. I think that's like a really important thing that people sort of like don't grasp until you actually do it.

Don’t get me wrong, it costs a fortune. Like it costs money to do your band that way. But the results in saying like, I was talking to our PR agent this morning and we're all talking about how well Truth Hurts has done in the last week. And literally a year ago we had 29 monthly listeners on Spotify and like, you know, no one listened to our band, no one cared who we were, And then from that stage we made sure we did everything right. And as much as it burns out a hole in your bank account, you know, the results show. So doing those things and putting the money into it and obviously putting the money where your mouth is, it gives you results 

J: You get the delayed satisfaction.

 R: Exactly. And if you look now like almost 12 years on from release of State of Decay, sorry, 12 months. And, um, we're now, you know, comfortably sitting at over 10,000 monthly listeners. The new single came out a week ago and it's on 7,000 streams. Like, you know, the numbers don't lie. Yeah, that's sort of like one thing when we're at shows and hanging out with all the bands and friends and stuff. Um, especially bands that are younger, younger than us and sort of ask us for those that like, you know, advice or how a lot of people seem to be really impressed when we did Chronus Complex cause we sort of obviously like went from a band that was just a, you know, a local band like everyone else to sort of somewhat making a name for ourselves.  And I've had a few conversations with a few bands and like, you know, how did you do it? Like what's it like working with those people and stuff like that. And I always tell people like, you just have to put the money in. Like that's sort of at the base of it all. That's where it all stems from. Because if you put the money in, you'll get the results.

J: For new bands who haven't quite started and grasped what to put their money towards - what would you say is the first priority? 
R: It would be production. Like making sure you go to producers and engineers that are going to give you the best product. So like, in the past we've gone, don't get me wrong, previous producers we’ve gone to have been fantastic, but we didn't have that hands on experience where we went into the studio with material and we sat down for, you know, three days straight and just tore everything to shreds in pre-production. And I think it's really important these days, especially in an industry that's so built up, you know, so oversaturated, there's so many bands in Australia alone and you know, a lot of bands sound the same and when you're in an industry that is so oversaturated and everyone's trying to do the same thing, like, you know, it's hard to make a name for yourself. Production step one is really important because you can stem from there….

Once you sort of grasp the concept of letting all the right people sort of have some type of artistic direction over your music, it opens up a whole new world for your band.

Of course as musicians, we’re artists, like you do have to make sure that you still maintain some type of integrity to what you're creating. We have a really good relationship like that with our producers where they know - I suppose we've worked with them for so long now they know what our vision is and they just help bring it out that step further where we can't do it ourselves.

J: You supported Buried In Verona at Max Watts? You’ve said was your favourite venue to play because you had that massive final, final show for them. Who would be part of your sort of dream lineup to be a part of? 
R: Oh man, that's a hard question. Um, God. I think a big one for all of us would probably be Kill, Switch, Engage. Anyone who saw us in the early days, we used to play My Curse at like every single show.
Probably Parkway Drive.
Bullet For My Valentine. Architects.
These days Polaris, like that would be sick. Those guys are just insane. I think that'd be a big one. especially being in Australia. And Wage War. I mean the boys love Wage War. We went and saw them when I came out early this year and yeah, that really good. Get onto em.

J: Is there anything else coming up for you guys?
R: Obviously it’s hard to do anything at the moment. So, well we've been sort of trying to think of ways to obviously keep engaged with our audience once Truth Hurts sort of starts to die down a little bit. We’re hoping to see, you know, release a few different things, like some play throughs and maybe some covers and stuff. At the end of the year we might be going back into the studio to do another record.

J: Backbeat’s priority is to support Australian music specifically, mainly. We try to ask everyone we interview what their top three current Australian artists are at the moment. They could be new or old, but Australian.
R: Yup. Um, Polaris. Yup. Um, Oh God. Who else? Um, I gotta think about it. Polaris um, geez, that's a hard question. Well, obviously definitely Polaris. I think Alpha Wolf at the moment, they’re making waves there. They're doing great at the moment, and To Octavia, they're really close friends, so definitely To Octavia.

J: Was there anything else you wanted to check in and chat about? Any last words?

R: Check out Truth Hurts!

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PHONER CHATS WITH MIKEY FROM GLOOM IN THE CORNER

The Gloom In The Corner are a concept band exploring the depths of human melancholy through a vessel of their own creation. The past few years have been a meteoric rise for the band, where they performed at Bigsound 2019, at Unify Gathering 2020, won the triple j unearthed competition to play Download 2020 Melbourne (which was unfortunately cancelled), and then took out a spot on The Faction’s Hardest 100 of 2019 with their song Misanthropic.

I was lucky enough to score an interview with The Gloom in the Corners vocalist Mikey, on the launch of their powerful new single ‘Violence’.

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 Dan:  So, to start things off; where does your new song ‘Violence’ fit into the Gloom catalogue and which aspect of it are you most proud of?

Mikey: Which aspect? Okay, we’ll do the easy part first. It fits in right at the start. The best way to think of violence is like a theme song for a TV show, or a theme song for a movie. It introduces the band and the story at a pretty face value that people can mosh along to. As far as the aspect I’m most proud of…fuck! I mean the artwork is definitely up there…. Sam smashed it. I think the breakdown too…because of how ignorantly heavy it is. I remember when we got the mix back from Jeff and I’m just sitting in my car and it just shakes because it can’t handle bass or anything below 80 hertz.

D: That’s how you know it’s good…

M: One hundred per cent.

D: You have such a rich lore and a heightened sense of world building within your songs, does that come from a love of books and if so what are some of your favourite authors?

M: It very much comes from books, but not just books but also TV shows, comic books, video games - we try to implement subtle little nods to them throughout our music. Favourite author? I’m looking at my shelf now…I think the Scarecrow series by Matthew Reilly. And Skulduggery Pleasant; Sherlock is my love note to Derek Landy from that series. I think, definitely if I was going to point it at one book I would definitely say Skulduggery Pleasant. I think everybody else in the band would agree with me.

D: Everyone likes the same book?

M: It’s more so they all know I cherish the series. Punisher as well…especially the Netflix series, especially characters like Jay. I wanted them to be able to relate him to somebody like Frank Castle or Sherlock with Skulduggery. Our recent Australian and American markets, not many people are too super familiar with Skulduggery pleasant. I’m one of three people that I know who’ve actually read it.

D: It was a very specific time in Australian books.

M: It just kind of fell under the radar, unfortunately.

D: When you first started the storyline that has continued throughout the years, did you expect it to be where it is now? And if so, did you have it mapped out?

M: Look, yes and no. It’s a complex answer, about as complex as the lore.

D: Let’s hear it!

M: I had an end goal, more or less. I had an ending to where I wanted this story to end up, it’s just the journey that kind of gotten me there. For example; when I originally wrote Fear Me, the original plan was, at least in my head, for it to jump into the next arc. I kind of expected Fear Me to be its own thing and then we’d move on from there. Then we kind of realised, okay we wanna do an EP and I can talk about Ethan, James’s brother and that’s what became of Homecoming. And then we decided again that we were going to push back the record and so I was like what are we going to do here, and that’s where Sherlock came up. So, even though Sherlock has been in the story for a long, long time (since Fear Me started), he didn’t actually have a name until Flesh and Bones became an idea. I was very careful in the way that I implemented him into the story and kind of wove him in to make sure that nothing contradicts or retcons itself or anything like that. And then here we are again with the three singles coming up; we’ve pushed back the album again so I’m like, okay cool I think we can finally end this arc before we move on to the next arc.

D: What made you want to take a conceptual or narrative approach to music even from an early stage?

M: I think it comes from a mixture of my love of storytelling, and storytelling in general. On top of that, around the time we started doing Fear Me, I was kind of just sitting there like, so many bands doing stuff like Villains or Sworn In or down tempo heavy bands, etc. and I thought how could I make this different to everybody else….I’d already semi-written the story before when I was in high school. I used to write short stories so I kind of just picked and chose characters and events that I wanted to incorporate into the story and kind of completely rewrote it. And so it came from a mixture of my love of story telling and also being like, cool I want to do something different here and something that people are going to go “Oh okay, this band is different for this reason”.

D: Now, ‘Violence’ is one blood-soaked ride into the history behind The Glooms.  What events inspired the writing of the track?  

M: Me playing a fuck load of Doom 2016. I mean if you couldn’t hear that in the influence then like you need to go play that game…I’m not biased against saying that Mick Gordon’s writing definitely influenced the track, as some people have picked up on (thank you Music Feeds.) We had thrown around ideas for how we wanted to start these three tracks and I said ‘fuck it let’s just do something absurdly heavy’, and to me one of the heaviest records came out in 2016-and still to my opinion holds up as one of the heaviest records in later years--was the Doom soundtrack. Violence was kind of a little love sonnet to that game; I’d been playing Doom for years and years even before 2016 came out… It’s my little love note to that.

D: It’s so cool you can weave all these creative outlets into a song.

M: I try to do it as subtly as possible. The Witch Hunt breakdown is the time warp code for Futurama. The tabs for the guitar is that time warp code. I’ve got a few subtle game quotes, etc. hidden throughout songs as well. It’s my little way of giving the nod to those games that have very much so inspired me growing up. Same thing with TV series’ and books and movies, etc. As far as stuff that actually influenced Violence, I think I just sat down and said ‘fuck it, I’ll write something as heavily as possible’ and that’s what came out of it.

D: What was it like working with Jaime Marino (whose worked with bands such as Alpha Wolf) and what does he bring to the table as a producer?

M: He’s basically there to make sure we’re not doing anything dumb-

D: As all good producers should.

M: It was awesome working with him. He understood what we wanted to do from him being in his old band Sentinels, which was a concept band too, so he understood what we were trying to do and why we were trying to do it, so it was refreshing. He made sure if anything didn’t fit--or if anything stood out that he thought was weird--that we’d go back and revise it. Thankfully, not to toot our own horn, I mean this in the most modest of ways, but I feel I don’t actually have to do that much to these songs which is so refreshing to hear because all the way throughout the process we’ve been told ‘you need to change this, you need to change this and this’, and I feel like this time around we did something semi-right? He was awesome to work with.

D: What are the main differences from working with a label (I know you guys have signed to Collision Course) on this record as opposed to self releasing?

M: It’s interesting. Collision Course came about because we went to Tim for marketing. He’d been wanting to work with us for a while and we’d been wanting to work with him and he said I’m starting a record label and I’d like you guys to be the flagship of it to get things started and that’s how that deal came about. I can’t speak for every record label but Tim has been super flexible to work with and it’s been an absolute pleasure working with him for this release. He’s been super encouraging of our ideas and understands what we’re trying to do and how we’re different to other bands that are doing heavy music in the aspect of the story and everything. And he’s fully on board; he’s a huge nerd too and he gets it and loves what we’re doing. I can’t speak for every label like that, some labels will be like ‘you need to rewrite songs like this’ or ‘you need your marketing to be like this’ etc. etc., but he’s been super flexible and understanding and it’s been super awesome working with him.

D: What can you tell us about the cover artist?

M: We’ve consistently had Sam Mayle from the U.K. He’s done everything since Homecoming and if we ever re-did Fear Me I’d love for him to do Fear Me well. The art is the first piece of the three singles, so you’ll get three standalone pieces of artwork that make up one big picture. If people haven’t picked up on it already it’s basically our recreation of the last supper. It’s going to include old characters, new characters, and it’s our nice little way of finishing up the story and showing everybody’s characters that haven’t had proper artworks done for them before and everything, as well as bringing back a few old ones and showing people like ‘Oh yeah I recognise that character, that’s cool’ and that kind of thing.

D: Gloom In The Corner has been around for a few years now. Have you noticed any significant changes to the Melbourne music scene (prior to the pandemic, of course)?

M: I mean some of my favourite bands have come and gone. It’s kind of hard to pinpoint one defining thing. You’ll find this in every music scene wherever you go, there will always be bands that try to emulate other bands in the scene. But that’s going to happen with every scene. Not going to pinpoint that to just Melbourne. My main take from it as well is that all ages shows have dropped off, which is sad to see, but from my understanding, a lot of the demographic who would go to all ages shows now all go to 18 plus shows. So, there’s not enough entry level all ages shows for kids who were my age to go to. And so they just say ‘fuck it, we’ll just wait till we’re eighteen’ and go to eighteen plus shows…which sucks. Hopefully after Covid-19 it kind of revitalises because all ages shows are a hell of a lot of fun to play.

D: What is the craziest thing that you’ve witnessed as a front man?

M: After a show I had a kid come up to me, say hi and proceed to do a death core scream in my face and walk away like it was nothing and said ‘Thanks man’ and I’m kind of standing there like what the f*ck just happened. I also saw someone eat sh*t real bad at that same show, that was a real bad one.

D: What’s in store for Gloom in the aftermath of the pandemic?

M: Hopefully touring and hopefully we get to do the full length as well!

D: Well it’s been an absolute pleasure talking to you.

M: Thank you for having me, it’s been awesome.

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Thanks so much to Mikey for his time and words.
Be sure to check out the new release ‘Violence’ and give em some love. 

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INTERVIEW: A CHAT WITH DAL SANTO ABOUT NEW SINGLE ‘FALL IN’

Our writer Tori caught up with Dal Santo to chat about their new single ‘Fall In’ - and we’ve got the exclusive premier! Read through to the end to find out all about their inspiration, who they’re listening to right now, and what to expect coming up from the band in the future.

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When Dal Santo guitarist Gaurav wrote ‘Fall In’ he could never have imagined the global pandemic we are now facing;

“This song came at an interesting time. We wrote it just before this was all kind of happening and we had a lot of gigs lined up and a lot of awesome things happening, like every music lover and every muso in the world really” 

Dal Santo were scheduled up for a big year of gigs with two strong EP’s behind them and the addition of their new drummer, Sunny whose name reflects her impact on the band.

“It’s interesting because when you get a new member in a band, they come to you and say I really love that song, and you think, we don't play that live. Sunny’s favourite song is Radio, but we haven't played that live for a couple of years actually. On top of that you have a whole new feel because you have a new member who adds their touch on it.

We had a few friends EP launches and album launches lined up this month. We had a gig with our friends Catholic Guilt which has been moved to August. Postponed, not cancelled which is great and playing with our old friend, Late Nights. That was lined up for a couple of weeks ago but unfortunately cancelled”.

Given Dal Santo were regulars to the pubs and bars of Melbourne, like so many of us, music is a religion and we can’t go to church.

 Which venues do you miss or want to get to?
“I’ve gotta say the Gasometer is probably one of my favourites. We did a residency there last year and it was the end of summer. They would open up the roof in the big main band room, so when the support acts were on, the sun was sort of still glimmering through and its kind of light in that room. Then it gets a bit darker but has that open air, open festival - you know like when you do a stadium show when they have the open roof feel which is more intimate? So I would say its one of my favourites”

 So, tell me, inspiration, where did this song come from?
“Yeah, so this is an interesting one. We wrote it pretty recently, just before things started getting pretty grim, but it’s kind of like a pessimistic view of when good things happen and they are always bound to get a bit shitter again, until you can see thats just what life is. So, it’s kind of a bleak view on things. You kind of go, this is great, but if you are looking at the world glass half full. The themes are a bit more optimistic - when I was younger I had this starry eyed view of the world. As you get older, it’s not that you are more pessimistic or cynical it’s just you kind of, you've lived a bit more, the world might have beat you down as well and you kind of learn from those experiences.” 

The new single is coming out, does this mean there is an album coming this year?
“We are working on an EP. We jumped in, we got in just in the nick of time. We jumped in the studio in January and smashed out a couple of songs going on the EP that we are hoping to release by the end of this year. Luckily, one of them got finished which is this single, Fall In. That was the one that, especially given everything that has happened, really stood out to us. A relevant song. It’s not a sad song, but it does have that sort of ‘arm around your best mate’ feel about it.” 

Leave the Light On is my favourite!
“Funny story about that one, you can hear traffic in the background. When we were recording the album we were doing it at Laneway studios and we would work on it on a Saturday night when the venue was closed to the public so we had the place to ourselves. One night, I reckon it was about two or three AM. We thought it would be a good idea with our producer, Will, to lug out all these mics literally on to Hoddle Street. He was like, I want to get this busking feel to it so he set up all these mics with cars revving past us, probably wondering what these guys are doing in the middle of the night. So we actually recorded it on Hoddle Street. You give it a listen, you can hear a couple of beeps towards the end.”

What is the last thing you listened to?
“Last thing I was listening to was a band called Pandamic, ironically. From Queensland, we played a gig with them last year. It was the 420 show, with The Bennies headlining. These guys were on the bill and they were super fun.”

Dal Santo are hoping to be back touring again soon, but to keep us going in the meantime, here is their new single with our own exclusive premiere - Fall In.

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INTERVIEW: GAUDION

“A summery, folky affair that serves as a reflection upon love and loss, Gaudion’s latest track is undoubtedly one for those who love their music featuring guitars, soulful lyrics, and the skill to leave it bouncing around in your head for hours after the fact.

Reminiscent of artists like Dean Lewis and Ziggy Alberts, ‘TV Shows’ is a perfect accompaniment to those summer nights that you never want to end.”
- Tone Deaf

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We caught up with indie singer-songwriter Gaudion to chat about the release of his latest single ‘TV Shows’, starring in a music video, guitars named after grannies, and his fav Aussie acts.

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TV Shows was released at the beginning of this month, how do you think it has been received?

I’m over the moon with how my song TV Shows has been accepted into the world thus far. My goal with this track is to let people know I'm about to start releasing some more music again and make a few people smile while I do that. I’ve had some really awesome feedback on the song which means the world because this song is pretty special to me.

In your press release for TV Shows it mentioned that the song could be featured in a coming of age movie. What movie could you hear TV Shows sound tracking?

Haha, awesome question. I could see TV Shows being the song at the end of a Rom-Com where the two love finders drive off into the sunset together. Or pretty much any movie with a happy ending like that!

In the chorus you mention radio hosts Kyle and Jackie-O, where did this line come from? 

It’s a pretty funny story of how the whole ‘Kyle and Jackie-O’ thing came into my mind. I’ve sworn I would say what it means if I ever get onto their show, however the lyrics give a vague idea of the story behind their mention. 

What was it like starring in your first music video? Tell us about the processes involved.  

Starring in a music vid is a bundle of emotions. I’ve never really been the kinda guy that likes to show off, or big-note myself, so i wanted to make my video the way it kinda came out. Plain and simple.  

The process was pretty straightforward. I put an ad on Facebook Marketplace looking for anyone keen to star in it, found some kind-hearted young adults that were happy to and we went to the park with a camera and made a vid! From memory the weather was an absolute nightmare and we didn't get the video done by its due date because of it, but what goes to plan in the modern world anyway?

How did your first live stream go? Any difficulties or learning curves that you’ll be taking into the next one? 

I was somewhat optimistic as to how much I knew about live streaming, so the 3 hours I allocated myself to set it up will be extended to 2 days for my next one. However, when I started performing everything felt really awesome, and I was so happy with the response. I’ve done a lot of busking in the streets and this whole live streaming thing is pretty much just a busk online so I think after a bit of practice it could be something I see myself doing even after Covid-19.

I’m sure you’re dying to get out there and play some proper gigs. What have you been doing to keep yourself busy during lock down? 

Yea it’s pretty hard when a musician hears that they can’t even busk anymore, let alone tour and continue to build their audiences, but everyone in the world is on a similar schedule. I think it is a really nice time to sit back and smell the roses. In lock down I've just been helping out back at home where I can. I haven't lived with my mum and dad for years so it's nice to feel like a kid again haha. I’ve also started decking out my van to tour in, which keeps me busy and I love this kind of work. I’m also trying to spend a lot of time on writing new music and working on old music as well.

Once everything COVID-19 has settled down, what do you see yourself doing? 

Depending on when this pandemic ends will really help me to answer this question! However, I was planning to tour a little bit more in the tail half of this year! So we will see how we go. To answer the question though, I'm very keen to keep moving forward with shows. They are what I love doing and I want it to be the biggest part of my life right now.

Tell us about your guitar, Grace; there has to be something extra special about a musician creating their own instrument. Should we be expecting a line of Gaudion guitars in the future?

She is a beauty! I love that I'm fortunate enough to be able to play an instrument I made with my own hands. Grace is retired from gigging, but I always love to play her at home and write with her. I name my guitars after family members, Grace is one of my grannys.  

I’d love to do more work with guitars in the future, however it is extremely time consuming. Hopefully haha, one day when I have my own house I will have a small workshop in there that I will build a whole range of things in, and hopefully a few more guitars as well. 

Aside from your upcoming live stream on April 30, what can we expect next from Gaudion?

I’ve got a whole heap of music, videos and content to come this year. I have always planned on this being a big year for my development, so it’s definitely a good time to be watching if you like what I have to offer. I plan on doing live streams very regularly as well.

Gaudion’s current Top 3 Aussie acts:

The Dreggs: One of the last gigs I went to this year was The Dreggs, and man their music is something! Awesome, funny and down to earth guys as well. Absolutely love ‘em.

Meg Mac: I love this chicka’s tunes and I believe she is going to go a really long way when it comes to pop-music throughout the world. 

Eves Karydas: I’ve followed Eves for a couple of years and I’ve always listened to her music on repeat for hours, even though she only has about an hour worth of tunes out haha. Such a cool voice and I’d love to collab one day. 

A huge thank you to Gaudion for his time, and a massive congrats on his beautiful single ‘TV Shows’! Don’t forget to set a reminder and tune in to his next live stream happening on Thursday April 30, 7:30pm AEST on either YouTube or Instagram.

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PHONER WITH BUTTERFINGERS FRONTMAN ‘EVIL’ EDDIE

Butterfingers frontman “Evil” Eddie Jacobson answered the phone and his laid back nature oozed through. For a newbie to doing interviews I was nervous to be talking to a guy whose lyrics I have sung hundreds of times, but after a warm greeting it felt like chatting to an old friend. From its first release in 2006, Butterfingers classic FIGJAM cemented the boys as an iconic Aussie hip hop group that I rate up there with the likes of Hilltop Hoods. The Brisbane locals smashed onto the music scene in the early 2000’s with two songs making it into the top 50 of triple J’s hottest 100 of 2003. 

It’s been 14 years since their last album release and Eddie is aware of the changes in how music is consumed. His last album launch was primarily distributed on CD’s and boosted by a promotional team. It was controlled by the promoter and out of his hands. This time is different, “I’m doing a lot more trips to the post office! You’re so in touch with the way people are responding to content on social media. You can see how it affects streams. Before you just sent it into the void”.

The album is aptly named “Bad News” which is quite ironic given current events. It has a mix of genres which is not often seen. Eddie noted ‘Dancing to the beat of my own drum’ features on a rock playlist. See our album review by Selin! Despite having to reschedule the album tour due to the coronavirus pandemic and the arts and entertainment industry being turned on its head, Eddie seemed to take it in his stride “Its not that weird for me, I work from home anyway. I don't go out a lot unless gigging”. He noted most bands are struggling, having to push back tours, delay release of music and contemplate what the music industry is going to look like when the chaos dies down. “We have pushed the tour back to the end of the year, gives the album a chance to breathe before we tour. It might be helpful that people have more time to listen to it…..people have more free time to enjoy entertainment” 

It was an album over 10 years in the making, closing track ‘(I Just Wanna Play) Music’ “musically and chorus are all the same, the thing that changes the most is the raps/verses. I have written at least seven or eight different versions.” Eddie described the approach to the album as more “big picture” than previous work which came through as a “stream of consciousness”.

We started to compare notes on favourite venues and those he has chosen for his tour, “All the venues are booked for the tour later in the year. I am excited to play at the The Triffid in Brisbane - I have played there before in my punk band days but not as a headline act, so thats pretty cool.” Eddie’s passion was palpable when describing the infamous Badlands Bar he is due to play in Perth. “This was one of the coolest venues I have ever played. It used to be a hell themed restaurant. They sprayed concrete n everything so it looks like caves. The walls are curved. The vibe is cool and acoustically there is no horrible resonance frequencies. Sounds really good, I’m excited. 

Leading up to the new album, Eddie talked about his influences, “I studied trap stuff…Post Malone, through the process of breaking down Post Malone, who I didn't particularly care for before, but found myself going wow, this is more interesting than I thought it was. Melodically I compare it a lot to Kurt Cobain writing style. The scale would change from the verse to the chorus. Made me appreciate it.” When I questioned what he is listening to right now he chuckled “its really obvious and cliche but the Queens of the Stone Age desert sessions record” and between the band they have been sharing some old favourites “a lot of old school performances of faith no more and Pantera in ’94”.

“Bad News” is out now! My favourite track is without a doubt ‘Dem Billz’

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INTERVIEW: FUTURE STATIC - ALL ABOUT ‘FATALIST’

“Where the previous release 'Want' expressed a need for answers, 'Fatalist' - produced, engineered, mixed and mastered by Christopher Vernon (Belle Haven, Better Half) with help from Darcy Handley (Terra) - is fury and confusion. 'Fatalist' is the realisation that just because you want an answer, doesn’t mean you find one, and as Future Static emphasise, "If you can’t get even, just get mad."

The group released singles "Choke" and "Dead End" a few weeks ago and have had a massively positive response, beginning with a SOLD OUT "Choke" single launch show, plays on Triple M's Hard N Heavy, triple j Unearthed love, both added to rotation on The Faction, Spotify playlisting on Homegrown + Heavy and Rock Out., a number of shares across social media and national publications as well as worldwide with a spotlight from Kill The Music.”

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We chatted to Future Static about the response to and creation of Fatalist, their mission as a band, their biggest influences, what cats dream about, their top 5 isolation bangers, and whats up next!

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You’ve had a fantastic reception to Fatalist, was this something you expected? What has been the best/favourite word of praise?
As artists, you always want your work to be recognised and reviewed positively. We hoped that it would be received well, and we had a pretty good feeling about the whole process. But we had no idea that the record would resonate with people the way that it has, both in publications and in our general listeners. It really blew us away, and we’re so grateful for the warm welcome that the EP has received from so many people.

In terms of words of praise, our personal favourite has to be, “I struggled writing this up because I just wanted to listen and listen and listen, and that was it.“ 

Fatalist is a collection of emotional, rather angry (head)bangers - what was the songwriting process like, and given the angry, honest, emotional nature of the tunes, was it taken from personal experience?
Lyrically, the EP dives into some pretty heavy places, and whilst this sometimes meant emotions were running high, we were fortunately surrounded by great people through the whole process. Every day involved a lot of laughs and funny stories, which we definitely needed to get us through it.

The lyrics are definitely taken from personal experience and then expanded on. This is something we have always wanted to be a part of our music; we wanted it to be a cathartic experience for us as well as something our listeners could relate to and feel a part of.

Musically the record also comes from a dark, angry, nihilistic place. It was a definite experience of catharsis for us, every chord or note is played with a ferocity and anger that we’ve never really utilised until now.

Fatalist’s release day, April 3rd, was also National Chocolate Mousse Day, National Find a Rainbow Day, and World Party Day! Did any of you inadvertently celebrate any of these? We were partying because of the release of course.
Definitely sad we missed those! We had a little zoom party with some friends and drinks as it rolled out.

 Favourite track on the EP?
BM: My favourite track would have to be The Fatalist. Lyrically, it’s quite heavy and it’s a song that a lot of listeners have resonated with. It’s got this absolutely huge feel to it, and I feel like it’s the perfect ending for the record.

RQ: Defs “Never Miss” It’s just flat out riffs from start to finish, a challenge to play live, but one that I’d be happy to take on again and again.

JT: Dead-set, Dead End. It’s my absolute favourite track to perform live. I’m a hardcore kid at heart and Dead End scratches that itch with it’s dark and edgy sound

KN: For me it’s The Fatalist. After the huge journey the EP takes you through, to have this big, emotional epic finale to tie everything together is something I’m really proud of, and always hits me hardest when we play it.

JS: My personal favourite from Fatalist is Adaptive Manipulator. It’s succinct and undeniably aggressive, a thematic turning point and will leave a mark on anyone who hears it. 

What's something you'd like listeners to take away from your music/your message in general?
Our main mission in Future Static has always been to instil a sense of strength and unity in our audience. The main thing that we’d like listeners to take away from our music is the fact that you are not alone, and that with the help of the people around you, you have the power to get through whatever it may be you are struggling through.

You had a sold-out show for the single launch of ‘Choke’. Unfortunately, we didn’t make it, but we hear it was awesome - how was that for you guys?
Ridiculously good. We pulled together an incredible line-up with Stand Tall, Furious George and Excuse for an Exit, had an amazing audience of familiar faces and new supporters, and it honestly felt like our strongest show yet. Not knowing how serious the lock down would be at that point, we’re incredibly lucky to have that show be such a high point, and selling it out was the cherry on top of what’s turned out to be an awesome release cycle. 

Biggest influences - personal and/or professional/musical?
KN: It definitely helped that we wrote and recorded this record with Christopher Vernon, but Belle Haven are a huge influence for me. From how they interact with each other and their ability to have fun with each other while being able to write such high quality music with a huge spectrum of sounds, they’re definitely people and musicians I look up to. 

BM: Yungblud is someone I look up to on a personal and professional level, probably because those two worlds seem to overlap seamlessly for him. His energy onstage is nothing short of electric and his shows are so much fun, but he also speaks out about real issues and uses his platform to inspire real change.

RQ: Definitely Lee Malia from Bring Me The Horizon, he’s an incredibly versatile guitar player with a great knack for playing to suit the song. He’s also a great riff writer, something I aspire to be.

What 5 songs would you put into a Top 5 Isolation Bangers playlist to perk up your day?
Want you in my Room- Carly Rae Jepsen

Hard Times - Paramore

Sell Out - Reel Big Fish

Allergic To The World - Sleep Talk

If I Fall - The Story So Far 

What are your plans once we’re allowed out of isolation? What have you been missing most during this time?
BM: I miss just going outside. I’m someone who lives life spontaneously, so not having the freedom to just go out and see what the day brings is kind of excruciating. I can’t wait till I can hang out with my friends at gigs again, sometimes I feel like it’s the only time I feel alive.

JT: I miss my friends, hanging out at shows and being up on stage performing our music together. My fondest memories were created in and around shows; either the ones we produced or the ones we go to. I miss the atmosphere at live venues.

KN: Definitely friends and shows too. We were so lucky to have our last pre-isolation show be our incredible single show, and it’s definitely a memory I’ll treasure until we can get back out there again. There are a lot of people getting a lot of hugs when it’s safe to give them!

JS: Saturdays with the boys; what else are Saturdays for? 

RQ: Being able to kiss the homies goodnight

What do you think cats dream about?
RQ: Electric Sheep.

KN: Electric Mice.

Seriously though, final question; what now / what’s next?
More music, exploration of new and exciting sounds. We’re not a band that likes doing things twice in a row, comfort is complacency, and we’d rather be pushing ourselves outside our comfort zones in terms of our capabilities in a live or a studio setting.

Thanks so much to the guys and gals from Future Static for their time, and don’t forget to check out the new EP if you haven’t already - and check out our own review of the EP HERE!

The 'Fatalist' EP is available now to stream and purchase at all good online outlets and streaming platforms!

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INTERVIEW: KATIE WIGHTON // KIT

We jumped on for an e-interview with Kit // Katie Wighton from All Our Exes Live In Texas, about her recent jump to a solo debut and her latest release, her influences, the change to livestream shows to replace live gigs during isolation, and what she’s looking forward to once everything calms down.

Where did the name 'Kit' come from - is it just a nickname you went with or was it specifically chosen as a solo stage name?
It was specifically chosen for my solo stage name :) I was just writing down all the letters in my name and it kept popping up. I made a font by writing out all the letters and I really liked the way KIT looked together. I wish it was a better story tbh..!

 What triggered the jump to a solo act?
I had been writing some pretty rocky music and when Exes took a break from touring and playing loads, it just felt really right to start working on my solo stuff. Music is my outlet and I didn’t want that to stop just because my band were taking a break. :)

 Following your new single and music video for 'Good Guy', how would you actually describe what you believe are traits of a real good guy? Have you met many 'good guys' (the 'actually I'm a bad guy' ones)?
Haha this is a great question! I think the traits of an ACTUAL good guy would be a willingness to own their mistakes; self-awareness; a desire to learn from the women around them and strong female role models; someone who calls out bad behaviour in a positive, non-violent way - especially with their friends and someone who listens to women. 

I have unfortunately met a few ‘good guys’ which is a real shame. I mean the ones who have high-profiles are the worst because they teach other men that they can behave badly and get away with it. But I also have a lot of genuine good guys in my life, so that gives me hope! 

We heard that you performed with the first-ever streamed virtual version of Live Lounge through Instagram recently with a bunch of Collarts students and other artists. We missed it, unfortunately, but how did it go?
It was really lovely!! I teach at Collarts and so it was really nice to perform to some of my students. I really love performing and I actually miss it so so much. I only got to do ONE band show with KIT BC (before Corona) and so I am really looking forward to doing another when this whole thing gets lost.  

You're also planning your own live stream for your single launch show with Bonnie Songs, Nancie Schipper & Hannah Blackburn via Instagram in a week's time. We've obviously seen a lot of live streams being pulled together for similar shows and 'tours', with even a few international artists jumping on board for Isol-Aid, etc. Is this something you're enjoying, and what are your thoughts on the whole situation? How is it singing to/interacting with a digital audience in that way?
I really am! My friend Merpire started Isol-Aid with some other incredible women and I remember her calling me and saying “I have this idea…” and I was like, “Dude. This is huge.” And it is! I absolutely love the idea of inclusive gigs. I think festivals like Isol-Aid have inadvertently stumbled upon a whole bunch of people who have actually been left out of live music for a long time. People who are unable to leave their homes for whatever reason. And I really hope that after this we remember those people and keep including them. 

Digital audiences are very different I think because you’re hearing their thoughts! You never get 200 people watching you and saying lovely things. Partly because people are too shy and partly because it would be rude to talk so much during a gig! So I think it’s a really positive thing to come out of a real crap situation. 

 Are there any other artist's live streams that you're looking out for/forward to?
My friend Merpire (bloody banging on about her but I adore her so I am not gonna stop) is doing a live stream in the next week - I’m not quite sure when - and her music is just incredible. James Seymour plays and lives with her so I’m sure he’ll be jumping in and that’s so fun to watch at the moment when most of us can’t play music with our bandmates! 

Biggest influences - personal and/or professional/musical?
Ooh another good question! I think personally I would say my mum. She has an incredibly strong character. She’s kind, honest, generous and stands up for what she believes in. Honesty has always been rewarded in my family and I’m really grateful for that! 

I would say I’m really inspired by my colleagues at Collarts too. They’re all really great teachers and musicians - no egos which is rare and incredible to be a part of!  

What songs would you include in a Top 5 Isolation Bangers playlist to perk up your day?
OMG Okay. Juice by Lizzo FOR SURE. How can that not get you dancing?

The Middle by Jimmy Eat World. Those lyrics “It just takes some time, little girl you’re in the middle of the ride everything, everything will be alright” are so damned appropriate atm!  

In 5 years time after coronavirus calms down, what are your plans once we’re allowed out of isolation? What have you been missing most during this time?
5 years?! IT HAD BETTER NOT BE FIVE BLOODY YEARS. Ummmm my friends. For sure. I’m an extrovert which means I really need groups of people to hang with - not just one or two which is pretty much impossible at the moment. I also miss gigs and leaving Brunswick and camping and kissing and hugging and touching!! 

 Do you find you write better in times of isolation and on your own, or when you're able to collaborate/be with/around others?
I think I write better when I have the mental space to write. At the moment, I’m still working HEAPS which is so amazingly lucky but it doesn’t leave me much brain space for writing. I love co-writing with people too so I can’t wait to get back into that in a few months time! 

 How many times does it take for you to listen to a song that you love before you actually hate it instead (or the other way around)? Are there any/many songs this happens with?
Hahahaha, well I did an insta-choir version of Two Strong Hearts (where people sent me videos of themselves playing along to a cover of it that I did) and by the end of that week I needed a break from that song. But I’m back in now - didn’t take very long, haha.

Finally, and this one is important, so please pay attention. On average, how many times a week do you hurt yourself trying to dance in the shower?
Well I don’t even try to dance in the shower because I just KNOW I’d fall over and knock out my teeth on the bath. Or worse - scrape my back on the tap when I stood up!! 

Seriously though, final question; what now / what’s next? Anything in the works for after the single launch? Or outside of that, what's the next thing you've got going on in general that you're looking forward to?
I plan to release a couple more singles this year and then an album next year which is bloody exciting. Apart from that I’m looking forward to hanging out with my friends and seeing my mum and getting out of the city :)

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Thanks so much to Katie for her time answering our strange questions (we’re losing our minds a little in isolation), and be sure to check out Good Guy and her next livestream this Friday (April 17)!

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GRETA STANLEY’S ULTIMATE ISOLATION PLAYLIST

We’ve been in chats with Greta in talks about her most recent release ‘Soak Into This’, and she’s also given us her top 10 tracks for her ‘Ultimate Isolation Playlist’.

Check out the press release for ‘Soak Into This’ HERE and check out the playlist below!

“These are just a bunch of songs I love, that I never get sick of. Some make me sad, some make me happy, some make me think of the people I love, some just make me think!  A few of them are by some of my incredibly wonderful friends, so they're a bit extra special.”

Daggyman - What You Desire

Pasta - Angie Mcmahon

Garden Song - Phoebe Bridgers

Rosemary Mushrooms - Jack Davies and The Bush Chooks

Sunday News - Colie

Rare Hearts - The Growlers 

Easy Easy - King Krule

With The Fire - Tayla Young

Exactly How You Are - Ball Park Music

Good For You - Alana Wilkinson 

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