COME OUR WAY FOR THIS WAY NORTH
Indie pop-rock duo This Way North, comprising Cat Jungalwalla and Leisha Leahy, is gearing up for the highly anticipated release of their debut album, 'Punching Underwater,' set to hit the shelves on February 8th, 2024. Our friends at Subculture put together a chat with Cat and Leisha, including a tour announcement - read on!
We caught up with Renowned Duo ‘This Way North’ who released Debut Album 'Punching Underwater'
Indie pop-rock duo This Way North, comprising Cat Jungalwalla and Leisha Leahy, is gearing up for the highly anticipated release of their debut album, 'Punching Underwater,' set to hit the shelves on February 8th, 2024. This musical endeavor is a collaborative masterpiece between the award-winning artist Ainslie Wills and accomplished engineer-producer Jono Steer, promising a blend of creativity and expertise that fans have eagerly awaited.
The journey leading to 'Punching Underwater' has been a fascinating one for This Way North. Having traversed various landscapes across Australia and beyond, the duo found themselves amid the serene Dhudhuroa country in north-east Victoria during the pandemic. Here, amidst ancient trees and high-country valleys, they exchanged the nomadic lifestyle for a temporary home, allowing a pause that became a haven for creative expression, shaping the essence of their forthcoming album.
This Way North has steadily climbed the ladder of recognition, previously honored as Music Victoria's Best Regional Act. Their repertoire includes three EPs, and they've gained prominence not just in Australia but also in New Zealand and Canada, sharing stages with notable artists like Vika and Linda Bull, Ash Grunwald, and Kate Ceberano.
The debut single from 'Punching Underwater,' titled 'My Love,' made its debut in October 2023. Featuring the mesmerizing sounds of Christine Tootoo's Inuit throat singing from Iqaluit, Arctic Canada, the single quickly gained national rotation on Double J and secured a top-5 position on the AMRAP charts, resonating deeply with their dedicated fan base and setting high expectations for the album's release.
In 'Punching Underwater,' This Way North showcases their peak songwriting and performance abilities, weaving together musical and lyrical elements that highlight their creative prowess. With Ainslie Wills stepping into the role of producer for the first time and collaborating with long-time creative partner Jono Steer, the album reflects a synergy that allowed Cat and Leisha to delve deeper into each song, refining them to showcase their exceptional talents.
Recorded across studios in Melbourne and Romsey, central Victoria, each track on the album radiates lush, dynamic sounds, standing out both individually and collectively. Cat Leahy's vibrant, powerful drumming and Leisha Jungalwalla's intricate guitar tones and slide guitar chops are meticulously crafted, forming the backbone of the album's sonic landscape. Additionally, guest vocals from Xani, Little Wise, Tuckshop Ladies, and Ainslie Wills, along with contributions from Jono Steer and guest bassist Brett Langsford, add layers of depth and richness to the musical tapestry.
'Punching Underwater' delves into introspective themes, addressing insecurities, imposter syndrome, and self-doubt while also celebrating the journey of self-discovery and personal growth. From the struggle to avoid falling in love to the highs of building confidence and contentment, the album encapsulates the myriad emotions of a woman's evolution. Ultimately, it leaves listeners on a positive note, embracing the highs and lows of life's journey with resilience and grace.
With compelling harmonies, robust melodies, and a profound exploration of the human experience, 'Punching Underwater' is poised to be a standout debut album for This Way North, solidifying their place in the indie music scene and captivating audiences worldwide. Fans can look forward to a musical journey that is introspective, uplifting, and undeniably authentic.
INTERVIEW:
Can you tell our readers about your new Album 'Punching Underwater', and a little bit about who you are?
Hello! We are a band called This Way North, I'm Leisha, I play guitar and sing and there's Cat on drums and vocals. We are based in Yackandandah (yes, it's a real place!), in the high country in North East Victoria. We are a drums and guitar duo who often get mistaken for a full 5-piece band, we love blending indie rock, pop, blues, roots and folk with a little bit of psychedelica thrown in!
We've just released our debut album 'Punching Underwater'!
Who did you work with for this single, and what does the name of the album mean?
We worked with Ainslie Wills and Jono Steer as co-producers on the whole album and the lead single 'Punching Underwater'. The name is about how when you try to punch under the water everything is slow moving there is a lot of resistance. There were a lot of challenges for us to get this album and the songs together and out into the world, the song is about how you can be too hard on yourself and make yourself so slow by not believing in what you're capable of. We co-wrote this song with Bobby Alu.
How do you put music together, or do you work with a Producer, if so who?
We write all of our own songs by either writing them separately and bringing them to each other to finish or writing them completely together. We then worked with Ainslie Wills on each song in pre-production. She really brought them out to be the best they could be with her incredible ear and song writing sensibilities. We learnt so much from her and how she crafts her songs.
Who's on your greater team?
We have our awesome booking agents Abby and Bec from Onya Soapbox, our album team was Ainslie Wills, Jono Steer (Co-producers plus some keys and vocals), Brett Langsford (bass), our publicists Stuart and Jonny. But the rest is all us! We're an independent band and work bloody hard to make sure we hustle and create opportunities for ourselves. Oh and our dog Messy.
What are some of your go-to records to listen to, when you're either chilling or working on new music?
We both love Bahamas, Khruangbin, Tami Neilson, Bonobo but there's too many to list!
Anything exciting coming up over the next few months?
Yes! We have the next leg of our album tour throughout South Australia, Queensland, Victoria and New South Wales!
What other artists and or creatives are from your community, and who should our readers get across?
We're super lucky to live in a very creative area! There's amazing artists from all mediums: sculptors (check out Ben Gilberts creations), visual artists (Kirrily Anderson), black smiths (Toadhall forge) and of course musicians!
Check out Sal Kimber, Liv Cartledge and DJ Jane Doe.
We also have amazing whiskey distilleries (Backwoods Distillery), recycled wool and leather workers (Stonehill View), furniture makers (Indigo Woodworks). It's a really inspiring place to live with lots of amazing people doing cool and inspiring things!
What do you like to do, outside of writing, recording and playing music?
We both love being out in nature, camping in our van with our dog Messy! Cat is a hatter, so she spends a lot of time in her shop making glorious hats (check ou Feather & Drum Hat Co.). I love surfing when I can get to the coast.
Do you have any shows coming up?
Catch us here:
Sun April 28th supporting Ash Grunwald at Star Hotel Yackandandah
Sat June 15th Melbourne Album Launch Show w East Bound Buzz, Liv Cartledge and DJ Jane Doe at Stay Gold, Brunswick
Fri June 21st Brisbane Album Launch Show at the Cave Inn with special guests TBA
Sat June 22nd Full Moon Party, Verrierdale Sunshine Coast QLD
Sat August 3rd The Stone Pony, w Parvyn Willunga, SA
Sun August 4th Adelaide Album Launch Show at Trinity Sessions w Parvyn Adelaide SA
Fri August 23rd Wauchope Arts, Wauchope NSW
Sat August 24th Sydney Album Launch Show at The Great Club with Monstress and Juanita Tippins Marrickville NSW
Sun August 25th The Fun Haus, Gosford NSW
Any last words?
We can't wait to hear what you think of the album, don't forget to check out the film clips for the first two singles 'My Love' featuring Inuit Throat Singer Christine Tootoo, shot up in Arctic Canada and 'Punching Underwater' filmed at the Old Beechworth Gaol in an empty 100 year old pool!
INTERVIEW FEATURE: JULIA STONE - YES, THAT JULIA STONE…
In between releasing another outstanding collaboration with her brother, Julia was working behind the scenes to develop her upcoming album, Sixty Summers. I had the privilege of meeting with Julia to talk about where Sixty Summers came from, her answer was bittersweet;
In what may be one of our biggest interviews to date - Tori spoke to Julia Stone on her upcoming album ‘Sixty Summers’ and it’s a ripper-
In my early teens I had begun the exploration into my own music taste. Dad introduced me to Sting, INXS, U2 and The Killers, while mum was more comfortable with the softer sound of Diana Krall and Nora Jones. One of the first songs that resonated, independent of anyone else’s influence was Mango Tree by Angus and Julia Stone. The sweet melody and lyrics were nothing like I had heard before, and so their music became a staple on my CD mixes and playlists.
It wasn’t long until everyone seemed to agree, as ‘Big Jet Plan’ let Angus and Julia Stone fly to the number one position in the 2010 Triple J Hottest 100. This cemented them as Aussie favourites for many years to come, even after parting ways to explore their own projects. Angus saw success with Dope Lemon while Julia released The Memory Machine (2010) and her second studio album, By The Horns in 2012.
In between releasing another outstanding collaboration with her brother, Angus in the form of their 2017 album Snow, Julia was working behind the scenes to develop her upcoming album, Sixty Summers. I had the privilege of meeting with Julia to talk about where Sixty Summers came from, her answer was bittersweet;
“this period of summer in my twenties when I would come back from London and spend summer in Australia…..this particular friend of mine, we’d spend those summers together and we go to parties and go the beach and it was just really a beautiful time and really memorable but, what I do remember about it was that it would just come so quickly all of a sudden it was summer again. I’d be back in Australia, and this whole year of touring and living in London had just gone by. On the third summer of this period of time we’re at a really fun party and were on the dance floor, we’re having this beautiful night, it was just one of those magical nights where it’s all flowing and you know, celebrating love and life and she turned to me in this moment of urgency and grabbed me by the shoulders and said can you believe we’ve only got 60 summers left. It struck me as not very long and I had this feeling of the urgency and immediacy of needing to leave the 60 summers in the best possible way….to actually make your 60 summers worthwhile and valuable”
The limited approaching summers, filled with friends and family was evident, but Julia wasn’t going to rush through things. Sixty Summers was constructed between 2015 and 2019, with one track dating back further,
“I am no one, I had that song for years and I always loved singing it, but I never had the right feel for it… it was nice, it was very folky, very fleet Fleetwood Mac, I guess in a way out of all of the tracks on the record it’s probably the one that is the most folk. A tip of the hat to that traditional singer songwriter acoustic guitar playing world that I’ve come from”.
Julia remains a folk artist at her core, she is pushing forward and breaking new ground with her talents, but she still has inspiration from her past;
“I grew up playing the trumpet from when I was five or so. I think my love of horn and wind instruments has always been there and I love it used in pop music. I think naturally as we were working, in writing that was something that I was gravitate to”.
The horns are strong in her title track, Sixty Summers and create contrast to her soft vocals. When recording vocals, the progression in music technology gave freedom to both the equipment and locations used to record the album;
“when we started making Snow, I realised that the recording vocals for me was getting a lot easier to do if I recorded myself. I felt like I had enough skills on Pro Tools and running a studio that I could do it myself, it wasn’t anything to do with engineers not being good enough, it was just that I knew what I wanted to get to. When I had control of the desk, I felt like it was a much easier process for everybody. During the recording of [Sixty Summers] I would take myself off with the microphone and my preamp and stuff and do a lot of writing and developing hooks. I try for lead vocals to do them through a really beautiful microphone in the nice studio Thomas [Producer, Thomas Bartlett aka Doveman] has got an amazing $20,000 microphone that sounds incredible but sometimes the vocals you do or the parts that you create at home, because of the relaxed nature of it I also think and sound really powerful. I’m a fan of whatever works, that sounds good - it is good”.
Her vocals and melodic flow lend themselves to remixes or covers in other genres. Previous songs like Big Jet Plane and Chateau have been mixed and born into new forms. Julia noted this was something loved and was keen on exploring in future;
“I really love remixes and I think where I’d like to go is to go even more dancey. I just loved getting sent dance tracks and padding right into it and so I’d like to make a whole record like that actually, use more stuff that I write as the foundation and then build them up with different DJs. I’m a huge fan of clubbing and I love dancing and so to go more down that road… who knows I mean, we’ll see, I would love that album”.
Me too.
“I’ll keep you posted it might be the next one!”
Julia, as with most musicians expressed her longing to return to tour life. She has been on the road most of her adult life, and clearly misses the connection with her fans. Like many of those in the arts and music industry, she expressed her disappointment at the government covid response;
“I think historically when it comes to government and politics, the arts are in general forgotten about and I’m not saying that’s across the board, there have been governments that have understood the intrinsic value of supporting the creative arts. I think all civilisations that thrive have a really well-supported out artistic industry. I think the fact that you know there’s been such disparity between things like sports and music and dance and all of that kind of being is it’s really disappointing. I definitely see the value in sports, I am a huge fan of sports and I think it really brings people together but in the same way that festivals, music and dance”.
Julia is working hard behind the scenes for her album tour to hit the road. COVID has made her cautious, waiting until they can be sure lockdowns or border closures won’t cause cancellations or the dreaded re-schedule.
While we are waiting to see Julia in person, you can enjoy her cover of The Partisan by Leonard Cohen that she recently recorded with Paul Kelly here. Julia was shocked to discover she and Paul share around the same monthly Spotify streams;
“oh wow I didn’t know that….he’s such an incredible musician and such a hard worker, that’s a huge compliment”.
Who are your most recent songs?
- All of the light, Kanye West
- The Partisan, Leonard Cohen
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INTERVIEW: BOB EVANS TALKS TOMORROWLAND
Our writer Suze caught up with Bob Evans re. ‘Concrete Heart’ from his upcoming record ‘Tomorrowland’ and more!
Our writer Suze caught up with Bob Evans re. ‘Concrete Heart’ from his upcoming record ‘Tomorrowland’ and more!
You have a new song out?
Yes. I have a whole new record called Tomorrowland that comes out on April 16th. The most recent single is called ‘Concrete Heart.’
It’s a great tune. The sound is almost like The Beatles meets Jebediah.
I guess there used to be a real gulf between Bob Evans and Jebediah but that has narrowed somewhat over the years. The Beatles thing is undeniable. In previous times I have been directly influenced by Beatles stuff and you can hear it over previous records. This time around I wasn’t really listening to or being inspired by The Beatles, but they still managed to sneak in there because the artists that I was listening to a lot were inspired by them! For me when I was trying to figure out how I wanted to present this song, I was listening to heaps of Tom Petty, particularly Full Moon Fever. It is probably his best-known record and I really fell in love with it. Obviously a few of the songs I knew very well because they are such massive hits, but I had never really listened to the whole record properly and its now one of my favourites. There are a few songs on that record that are just power pop songs, guitar power pop. I thought that was the angle I could take with this one.
I read that you had used a bit more electric guitar this time around on the album.
Loads. I mean this really feels like the first traditional rock album that I have made as Bob Evans. Not just because of the instruments we used but also it’s the first time where I have recorded live with my band in a room. Very minimal overdubs, minimal edits. There was just five of us in the room and we smashed out all the songs in like six days. I’ve never done that before. It was important to do because I wanted this record to have its own unique feel and to be a real point of difference to previous records. I had to look at things that I could do differently. A few years ago I wouldn’t have had the confidence to make a record like that. I would have been worried that it wouldn’t be good enough to pull it off. So it’s pretty awesome to be in a band where you look around and you go these guys are great musicians and we can totally do this. And we did.
I also heard a whisper that you are touring.
Yeah. Well, the tour is definitely happening. I’ll be going all around the country. We just have to hope that everything remains open. Obviously, as everyone knows, this year is going to be pretty volatile but at the moment, the way things are going in Australia it looks pretty good.
I reckon things should stay pretty safe in Adelaide.
I’ve just been in Adelaide.
I was just about to say I came and saw you do Club 27 at The Fringe a few weeks back.
Cool, what did you think?
I absolutely loved it.
It was a lot of fun. So I’ve been to Adelaide twice because I did a Jebediah gig there earlier in the year as well. Look everywhere in Australia seems to be doing pretty well, I think there is reason for us to be optimistic. Certainly more so than last year.
Absolutely. So back to ‘Concrete Heart’. I liked where you kind of got the inspiration from. That whole putting stuff up on social media in a discussion that is important to you and having someone call you out for being a ‘bleeding heart’.
What it specifically refers to is when you weigh in on some kind of debate that is political in its nature, you know it might be something to do with immigration for example or perhaps indigenous Australia. You put forward an opinion or a comment that is sympathetic and a lot of people who disagree with you use the term bleeding heart as a dis. I have always found that really fascinating and kind of funny because it’s like the criticism from the other side of the debate is pretty much like ‘Oh you care too much'. Is that really a bad thing? I like the idea of taking this bleeding heart thing and wearing it like a badge of honour and making a bit of fun out of that whole term. Concrete Heart is the opposite of that. I mean at its essence it is serious, but I tried to approach it the song in a light, fun way because it is a little bit funny as well.
It is, because you never get a comment to back up the diss. It’s just you’re a bleeding heart. There is no actual discussion or reasoning why.
Yeah, I don’t even understand what somebody means if they use that term against somebody. What are they really trying to say? I guess they are trying to say that you are too emotional and you’re not rational or logical. Maybe that’s what they are trying to say.
It’s because you are passionate about something. That is why you enter those discussions in the first place.
Having said this, I rarely weigh in on social media debates. I try really hard not to read comment sections around issues that I care about. It can get really depressing when you see the things that people write. It can be a very toxic environment. So yeah it’s not something I do very much.
I just can’t anymore because of that reason. And the more you read those comment sections the angrier you get. Some of them just aren’t going to change their opinions. It’s better to just bow out.
That sentiment is in the song as well. There are lyrics in the song that pretty much say exactly what you just said. I’m the same, you just have to back away because it is not really doing you or anyone else any good.
No, it doesn’t.
Back to Tomorrowland. Are all the songs that little bit more rocky than normal Bob Evans?
I think so. I suppose it’s a lot to do with the attitude with which they were recorded. Like I said with the band recording them live I think it just gives the songs a real kind of electricity and a character.
You get that vibe off of each other being in the studio together.
That’s right. There is a character that I can’t recreate on my own. It really is its own unique thing. I’m really proud of the guys playing on it and what we were able to achieve. And Steve Schram who produced it, it’s a really good sounding record. It’s definitely going to be one of my favourite ones that I have done.
Is there an underlying theme or is it just a collection of 10 songs?
Well, actually there are 11 songs on this record. We were only planning on doing ten and we got up to day six and we only had two songs left. Steve was like “You know we are going to finish early should we try and squeeze one more song in?” I had to go back to my demos and in a very short amount of time I had to choose one. Of course, the guys had to learn it on the spot. All the other songs we had spent rehearsing before we went into the studio. The second to last song on the record is called ‘Fits and Starts’ and it came out great, it sounds awesome, but the guys were literally learning it as we recorded. It’s one of my favourite songs.
Tomorrowland is out 16th April.
INTERVIEW: ALEXANDER BIGGS AND THE FEELINGS BEHIND ‘HIT OR MISS’
Melbourne creative Alexander Biggs released his debut album 'I've Been Holding Onto You For Way Too Long' earlier this month and our girl Kayla chatted to him all things Biggs.
Melbourne creative Alexander Biggs has released his debut album ‘Hit or Miss'. The album is about hanging onto the idea of someone after they’ve left the room like you’re hanging onto their ghost or a husk like a cicada—all the insides gone, taken off, old here and new somewhere else—like an outline of dust in a roadrunner cartoon. Our girl Kayla chatted to him all things Biggs.
You’re quite well known for these incredibly distinct, almost poignant emotive songs - ones of which resonate deeply with many people. How do you find that your musics ability to touch so many people has influenced the manifestation of the themes present within your songs?
I try not to think too much about anyone else’s perception of my music. I remember a time when I was like, 19, playing the first kind of iteration of my project, like the very raw, beginner phase of figuring out what you’re going to sound like, and how to write songs, and someone telling me I reminded them of Death Cab, and I didn’t know any of their music, except that one song, so I looked it and then found myself emulating them, and I don’t even think I was the biggest fan at the time. I’m not saying I’d do that now, but I know that feeling now, and I know how you can take your own agency away when you worry about what others think about you, well-meaning or not.
Do you find you often write to appeal to the emotions of your listeners or are these songs truly written on the basis of your own experiences and emotive forethought?
I write solely to explore what I want to explore and to channel what I want to channel. I think there is a desire to connect with people, maybe offer a feeling of our shared experience, but I don’t let that come first, that comes after the fact. I write the songs because I’m compelled to, and they resonate second. I can only write from that experience.
In a 2018 interview - you’re quoted as saying “Melbourne is an inspiring place to live” have you taken inspiration for your new album release from any local talent, locations or occurrences that your listeners mightn’t have caught in your album’s musings?
Nah, I don’t look out at people like that. I appreciate Melbourne artists, any artists, for the unique things they bring to the table, their voices. I think Melbourne is imprinted heavily in my songs, but maybe more in just a personal sense. Songs translate to many locations, but in my mind I see where I was, or where I’m singing about. The new stuff I’m writing has a lot more of a city feel to it with a hint of northern suburbs. The stuff on Hit or Miss feels 90 percent northern suburbs, 10 percent NYC.
You have been a support act for some incredibly talented artists like Stella Donnelly and Julien Baker. If you could pick anyone in the industry to support (past artists included) who would absolutely make your lifetime if they asked you to support them?
I’m really hoping Ruby Gill takes me touring the world with her when she gets famous.
Your discography has a really consistent sound and tone - often as listeners we assume that your album release has direct connotations to your emotional state at the time of writing and it definitely has an almost cathartic feel to it - talk us through the process and feelings behind ‘Hit or Miss’.
The process was a whole bunch of recording, a whole bunch of feeling things, and a whole bunch of stressing about it.
How does it make you feel as a musician to know that people all over the world are listening to your music?
It’s neat to think people around the world are listening to my music. It’s a privilege, but one I don’t think about too much.
If you could think of any scenario or location in which you think your album is best listened to what would that look like? (for example I could definitely see myself crying into a tub of ice cream listening to ‘mostly i feel nothing’ haha)
I think it’s a headphone-walk kind of album. Walk around your neighbourhood at dusk. That’s the mood.
What can we expect from you in future? Are you ever tempted to produce collaborations or experiment with new genres?
Ummmm, I’m really interested in synths and euclidean rhythms but I’m not sure how much they’ll feature in the next stuff. Still exploring. Well, synths are involved a little, but I’m not going full radiohead or anything. They have such distinct characters and feelings, which I feel helped a lot when used sparingly in the last stuff. I’d like to turn it up a notch maybe.
Writing an album can be quite the process - did the songs on ‘Hit or Miss’ come to you over a length of time or did you smash it out and work on the production side of things more?
Hit or Miss was an ever-evolving process. It had so many different iterations, and a lot of songs got bumped out for others. I think it took a lot of time because it hadn’t yet arrived, and then one day it did, and it felt right.
Do you fear being pigeonholed to one type of genre or do you feel as though your current releases are the most authentic reflection of your past, present, and future self?
Yeah, I mean, most artists in my experience don’t like that. The amount times I get put in some, surf chill coffee strum playlist is a little annoying but I’m also grateful, and at the end of the day, you can’t choose who listens to you. I think any of the people I look up to or that my ego would want to be validated by would think my record was trash or trite or something haha
Music often provokes a feeling of nostalgia or provokes emotion tied to events in one’s life. Do you find that performing songs consistently stops this from occurring for you, or if anything does it make you remember events, feelings etc more vividly?
Maybe at first. I get tired of songs sometimes, but I’d say the feeling just develops and evolves into something else. It’s like looking at old photos—they still do something to you, but it’s not the same as being there. Probably for the best.
How has the response to your new album been so far? Is this what you expected or has it exceeded your expectations?
It’s been nice. I didn’t really know what to expect so I just take it day by day.
Congratulations on a super great album it’ll definitely be getting a ton of listens from me!
Thanks :)
'Hit or Miss' is OUT NOW
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INTERVIEW: PSYCHEDELIC PORN CRUMPETS TALK ’SHYGA! THE SUNLIGHT MOUND’
Kicking off her first interview for 2021, Tori caught up with Psychedelic Porn Crumpets frontman Jack McEwan to hear about their new album, SHYGA! The Sunlight Mound. Jack talked about the impact of COVID on the album, the highs and lows of touring and the battle of the aux cord.
Kicking off her first interview for 2021, Tori caught up with Psychedelic Porn Crumpets frontman Jack McEwan to hear about their new album, SHYGA! The Sunlight Mound. Jack talked about the impact of COVID on the album, the highs and lows of touring and the battle of the aux cord.
PPC were finishing up a tour of the USA and South America, jumped straight into the Australian Summer Festivals and squeezing in a couple of months to write and record their next album when COVID-19 pulled out their plans.
Was the whole album recorded during covid or pre covid?
It was a bit of both. I started working on it late last year when we got back from America, we got home about November and then we had a couple of months in between Falls Festival and Laneway before we were meant to go on tour with Ocean Alley, which was scheduled for I think last April, so the album had to be finished before that cos we were going to use that as a boost, then swing back into Europe. We had South America and stuff, but obviously that all got cancelled. I was actually so happy, like thank god I could become a human again and write and feel like a musician rather than some hungover Contiki traveller just being like, where am I. It was a chance to sort of reflect a bit and we wrote a lot of that material; I spent a lot of the time writing and didn’t finish the record until about the end of July. I gave myself an extra couple……actually four or five months of writing. It was definitely more of a covid album than the others, definitely a covid record.
It was a blessing in disguise then?
Oh yeah, it was a game-changer, It was the first time I ever felt like time had stopped. Do you know that show Bernard’s Watch? It was sick, it was good.
Speaking of shows, did you have any tv shows or movies that were inspiration?
I have always been a huge fan of Mighty Boosh and Monty python, that kinda like, strange, satirical world where everything is comedy central. A good time. Thinking laterally rather than give you a drama piece. Rick and Morty as well, I absolutely binged that when it came out as well. It felt refreshing, like something that had a twist on something that’s already solidified as an idea or a concept. Like Wes Anderson, he always kind of parodies his own movies. If you can get the joke, with Porn Crumpets, we are the most serious, non-serious band, just living in this mean world, so I was like, well let’s have fun with it and see where we can go rather than kind of take it seriously and be the butt of the joke, it’s like, of course we are. Let’s move on with it and have fun with it.
After listening to the album, I have to ask, Jack: What is a tripolasaur?
A tripolasaur? A friend was in a band called bipolar bear, so I thought rather than call it bipolar bear I’d call it tripolasaur, so it’s a man with three brains, or three personalities? Is bipolar multiple or two? I don’t know? If bipolar is two, then tripolar would be a three headed dinosaur. All the lyrics are about waking up feeling rough but you’re carrying on the same way of drinking each night and the audience kind of understands, and its easy to gather why he is feeling rough. Everyone keeps calling it trip-olasaur cos they’re like, this band is a ‘trip’ band, like trip-olasaur and you’re like try!
I also need to know, Is it Shy-ga? Or Shyg-a?
It’s Shy-ga. [Like tiger?] Shyga like tiger! There you go. I was listening to a lot of Godspeed You! Black Emperor. They had an exclamation mark in their name, and I was like, that’s fantastic, it already evoked an emotion before you even listened to it. I knew I sort of wanted an exclamation mark, and I was trying to think of an uplifting word that was like Eureka. I was throwing bits, Shyga, that sounds like something you would say if you get a hole in one! SHYGA! It was too interesting and ridiculous and stupid not to use it. I kept looking at it on my phone and thinking do I take the serious approach or the wonky way? But I’ve gotta do it, I gotta call it SHYGA!
I feel with a band name like yours you kind of need to say f*ck it and do it?
That’s it. I feel like we paved the way to be absurdist’s. But then if we ever tried to be serious, everyone would be like where’s the joke? We kind of ruined both angles now.
You have always been related back to Tame Impala or King Gizz, is that the same inspiration or have you been listening to anything different?
We spent a lot of time when we were touring, passing around the aux cord was a big privilege and everyone trying to outdo the other person with some strange thing they heard. After maybe a year of passing bands that we had all known, we started going back to 70s rock, like T-rex, David Bowie, all those sorts of zingers who are dad rock now. It feels quirky, but funny, but I love this. So, we all started being dads on tour, on the tour bus. That 70s style. Something about it still felt so fun and vibrant and interesting. We wanted to, or at least I did personally, write a 70s rock record that kind of reflected that but kind of put a twist on it into now. So as I was writing, there was meant to be an album called ‘The Greatest Hits of Sir Norton Gavin’ and that was originally going to be a fictional character in the 60s and 70s who was really big in Margaret River or down south and his music got lost but folklorist. I dunno, be funny trying to do that as more of a spinal tap thing. I scrapped the heavy stuff and the folky stuff, we had Pukebox, Mr Prism and Mundungus and I really liked that flavour. So instead of doing it as a ‘greatest hits’, what if we did a 70s record? You know, Google ‘deep dream’, like deep fake where AI is predicting things. What if we could do that, but predict a 70s rock record. So, all these glitched-out guitars would be in there and sound more sort of like, technological and emulate guitars and real drums and real band. That was the sort of idea of Shyga, that with tour diary inserts. What’s my life? With supercomputer picking up synths.
You have been off for a while; how do you feel about touring with Ocean Alley if it *fingers crossed* goes ahead this year?
Yeah - I love those guys. We first met them in Hamburg of all places at a festival and they did our light show, because we played a gig at like, 12 at night, I think. It was sort of like Big Sound, but the European version. They came and watched us and we didn’t have a strobe light so they kept turning the fader on and off, really quickly. It looked great, it was hilarious. We became good friends, then obviously did Laneway together. I feel like that was one of the best Laneways, for me. I just watched King Gizz for five days or whatever it was. It was amazing.
King Gizz and 1975 every day is not at all terrible!
They actually pulled out of one of them, they got sick. Might have been the Sydney one? One of them got sick, so Gizz were like, we’ve got to headline so they did a two-hour set which was OH MY GOD! It rained too so it added to this, I don’t know, it was such a wicked night.
What is the biggest thing you guys have missed from touring?
Nothing at all. I like being safe and comfortable at home. I don’t know. I think having a good yarn with people and catching up, finding the strangest people in the cities that usually seem to be attracted to a Psychedelic Porn Crumpets gig. I would love to do more sightseeing rather than being hungover in the day. I think, not drinking as much and be planning to do something, but then everyone has to be in agreeance so it’s hard. It’s weird. It’s like being on a strange holiday but it’s not. I would like to go to a festival again though. When we are playing early and get the rest of the day off, I miss that. That’s a great day.
A few big artists have come out of Tik Tok and social media in the last year, do you think you still need promoters, labels pushing things for you? Do you think that’s still important or needed in the music industry?
Well, it’s always changing, isn’t it? I think some people find it easier doing the old school bits and pieces and I think for the younger artist or whoever sort of growing up on tik tok, I mean I would have no idea who they are but if they can pack out a venue, they are going to get big eventually and make people pay attention. I think if you can do all of it, it would be amazing. Try and utilise every angle. I am still the worst on social media, I am so glad we have a manager who deals with it. I can’t do it. I feel like an old soul. I feel like I need a Guinness by the fire with a border collie and I’m happy for the rest of my life. I don’t want to keep up appearances.
One of the songs remind me of a song Hocus Pocus by Focus.
I have heard of that song! I love that Hocus Pocus Focus! That’s so ridiculous. I was going to put it on, have the rest of the interview just Hocus Pocus Focus on. That’s great.
Did you have any special equipment or things you used when recording?
Not so much physical hardware, but I got really heavily involved in sort of the software and like how to warp a guitar and just working out how Ableton and all those features I hadn’t used before. All the glitch guitars and basically every single part and vocal is manipulated, warped or pushed up like an octave or even sometimes two or down to give it this strange visual sort of sound. I got so hooked on it I made it the whole flavour of the record but in hindsight I probably went way too overboard with it.
What can people expect from you this year?
I am working on the follow-up. I kind of have it finished, but I want to take my time. Having a month off to see, is this what I want to release or am I just writing for the sake of writing. But at the moment I am enjoying, it’s sort of different elements which is different to what I did with SHYGA!. SHYGA! was one sound and try and write as much in that frame whereas I am sort of going opposite of that now, how many different styles can I put into one record. I think hopefully more enjoyable. I am stepping up production again.
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INTERVIEW: ODETTE HERALDS A NEW OMEN WITH HER SOPHOMORE ALBUM
Sound the bells and raise the bugles, 23-year-old Georgia Odette Sallybanks, Odette, one of Sydney’s most talented singer-songwriters, has released her sophomore album Herald after dipping and diving through the last five years of her adolescence.
Image: Odette explores a deep soundscape with her sophomore album Herald Photo: Giulia McGauran
Sound the bells and raise the bugles, 23-year-old Georgia Odette Sallybanks, Odette, one of Sydney’s most talented singer-songwriters, has released her sophomore album Herald after dipping and diving through the last five years of her adolescence.
Herald has explored new sonic depths as Odette herself went through a transformative period with grace and maturity, navigating a world of complex emotions. Combining two worlds, her sophomore record is adorned with instrumental intricacies which tie in to the natural world.
“There’s two worlds that sort of co-exist, so the lyrical world which is very much centred around me, my emotions, or almost self-absorption, and then there’s the instrumental world which is very much a phenomenon of natural environments,” she said.
“While I’m navigating these complex emotions which I’m not really sure how to navigate, these instruments act as sort of a world and also a safe space which creates a grounding texture.”
And with a new record, comes a newfound sense of confidence for the 23-year-old Sydney song-writer. After a late name change from Dwell, Herald represents a coming-of-age period for Odette.
“When I changed it to Herald it was mostly just because I really really wanted to bring about something new,” she said.
“I wrote that song because Herald means – it’s kind of like an omen – like something’s coming and it has a tone of anticipation and that’s sort of the tone of the whole record.”
The record also features a collaboration with Australian electronic duo, Hermitude, on her track ‘Feverbreak’. The track honours her debut single, ‘Watch Me Read You’, as it intertwines her signature spoken word poetry stylings with delicate electronic undercurrents from Hermitude.
“I write songs like that when I have a lot to say and not a lot of patience, and the Hermitude guys were so great with that, they just totally got it... it was such an amazing experience,” she said.
“That was the point of the record, to just say everything out loud and hopefully just use that as a launchpad to launch myself out of that headspace – I think it’s working – we’ll see.”
Late last year Odette reimagined Australian rock band ACDC’s ‘Thunderstruck’ for Triple J’s Like A Version segment, where she mentioned in an interview how much she had grown out of the pressure to ‘sound pretty’ and felt more herself since her first Like A Version cover in 2018.
“[In the first record] I still had this mentality of like it needs to be ethereal, it needs to be pretty and light, and as I’ve aged my voice is getting deeper, you know?”
Whilst there was a high degree of praise for her cover, a few comments criticised Odette’s interpretation of ‘Thunderstruck’, which perhaps speaks more loudly to the degree of tone policing which is inflicted on some women in music in Australia.
“There seems to be this weird intense policing of female tone, if you’re not beautiful sounding and perfectly articulate, you get a lot of hate,” she said.
“I just noticed it a lot, especially with female artists and non-binary artists.”
If COVID-19 vaccines are successful, Odette is keen to get back on the road and tour rural Australia, especially Tasmania.
“I want to do rural Australia, and I really am desperate to get to Tassie,” she said.
“On my last tour Tassie was always left out and I hated that so I’m so excited. I love Tassie so much, if I could close my eyes and be there I would in a heartbeat.”
Odette today releases her second studio album Herald along with a new music video for the title track, and announces a string of national dates in support of the release.
6 May - Altar Bar, Hobart
7 May - 170 Russell, Melbourne
8 May - Volta, Ballarat
9 May - Northcote Social Club, Melbourne [U18]
14 May - Lion Arts Factory, Adelaide
21 May - The Triffid, Brisbane
22 May - The Northern, Byron Bay
23 May - HOTA, Gold Coast
4 June - Factory Theatre, Sydney
5 June - The Cambridge, Newcastle
11 June - UniBar, Wollongong
12 June - Fiction, Canberra
18 June - Rosemount, Perth
INTERVIEW: THE JENSEN’S NEW ALBUM CROSSES SCI-FI WITH THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND WE’RE HERE FOR IT
With their brand new album ‘Hammer and Blush’ pushed back a whole year from its original May, 2020 release date too, the year of 2020 has not been kind to the Brisbane five-piece. Despite this, the band have come out the other side in pretty good shape according …
The Jensens have had a pretty turbulent year. After their slots at Pineapple Music Festival and Splendour in the Grass were postponed and their first single of the year was dropped the same day Australia shut down, the band felt pretty down in the dumps. With their brand new album ‘Hammer and Blush’ pushed back a whole year from its original May, 2020 release date too, the year of 2020 has not been kind to the Brisbane five-piece. Despite this, the band have come out the other side in pretty good shape according to the band’s front-man Joe White, as the band gear up to support their most recent single ‘Paper Walls’ on a tour around Queensland.
‘We're pretty much back to normal,’ says Joe. ‘We played a gig last weekend...they were all dancing and having a good time, there was definitely an excitement in the air and everyone felt like this was the start of normality’
For Joe, normality has been the farthest thing from what he has felt throughout the quarantining process of 2020. Finishing and mixing an album left him feeling pretty chuffed however and the 15-track album aims to project these feelings into a three-act LP extravaganza.
‘At the start of the album we're a bit more optimistic, there's a few like call to arms songs,’ explains Joe. ‘And then as we get towards the end of the album it's really just processing the world around us and how relationships have changed due to online communication. We get a little bit sci-fi with it, but it's mainly just commenting on how weird it is to be alive in 2020.’
Joe also explains that this three-part structure reflects three distinct musical styles with the latter third reflecting this theme of living in a digital age.
‘The start is up until River of Gold. There's more 70s influence there. Late-70s Fleetwood Mac-style. And then it gets more abrasive with Paper Walls towards the middle. The last third is more experimental, very experimental. Half of the songs on the end don't have a real drum kit and don't have any guitars,’ says Joe.
Abrasiveness is just what the band were hoping to reflect with their most recent single ‘Paper Walls.' Rough and harsh is intentionally what the single reflects in both sound and lyrical content. According to Joe the song’s lyrics and general theme weren’t even written during the year’s COVID-19 quarantine, but he felt the lyrics coincidentally reflected the harsh truth of isolation.
‘I think that the lyrical themes apply to many situations of taking stock of your life and being like 'well, I don't have to keep doing things I'm doing them, if I'm not happy with that,’’ explains Joe. ‘People could definitely have developed bad habits, or developed just even unconsciously the feeling of hopelessness. One of the things that's really been hard is the inability to plan anything. It definitely fits in with that.’
Reflecting further on what the metaphor behind what exactly a “paper wall” is, Joe suggested a paper wall is an empty promise you make to yourself, a fairly recurring feeling in isolation.
‘A paper wall to me and in the song is sort of like a new year's resolution that you never follow through with, so you've built a wall and you're like 'yeah, this is a sick wall, this is great, I've done what I needed to do,' but there's no stability to that wall and it's going to broken over with the slightest push, says Joe. ‘You're gonna start something, you're gonna change something, but really you haven't put enough thought and effort into it.’
‘Paper Walls’ is one of the first few singles to be released off of the band’s next album Hammer and Blush, which is presented with a confusing and intriguing album cover. Working with artist Uncle Chronic Bone, the band was presented with a numerous array of potential covers but just knew this one was the one. Being an image that seems to morph and change the more you look at it, Joe was adamant to not let too many details slip.
‘I don't want anyone to know what that is, says Joe. ‘I love how it looks like it's in outer space...it was shiney, glossy, confusing, abrasive, it really seemed like it summed up the album for us.’
With laws expected to change from November 1st allowing punters to dance and drink at the same time in Queensland venues, Joe is hoping that the upcoming ‘Paper Walls’ tour will be exhilarating and thrilling. With the new album dropping in May of next year, the Jensens are hoping with crossed fingers for a national tour as well.
INTERVIEW: SYDNEY RAPPER TUKA PERSONIFIES HIS SOUNDSCAPE WITH HIS NEW ALBUM ‘NOTHING IN COMMON BUT US’
In the last five years, Tuka had a semi-hiatus from his solo career, making two albums with Thundamentals and subsequently touring those albums. Sel chats to Tuka about all things…well, Tuka!
Pictured: Sydney rapper Tuka breaks genre boundaries with his new album, Nothing In Common But Us
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For those who are accustomed to the Australian hip-hop scene, the name Tuka would almost be synonymous with Blue Mountains hip-hop trio, Thundamentals. Iconic moments for the hip-hop group like their 2012 cover of Brother by Matt Corby for Triple J’s Like a Version segment (amassing over 4.9 million views) may also spring to mind, as well as their popular light-hearted tune Sally. Tuka is one third of that trio, and is hoping to define himself as a solo artist with his new album, Nothing In Common But Us.
In the last five years, Tuka had a semi-hiatus from his solo career, making two albums with Thundamentals and subsequently touring those albums. A major defining moment in that five year period for Tuka was a relationship which influenced a large part of his work.
“Nothing In Common But Us is from my perspective, it’s about personifying a relationship into the one character,” he said.
“I definitely got the idea for the album from spending a lot of time with someone and them uprooting a lot of things that I didn’t know about myself.”
Listeners are greeted by tracks such as the first single from the album, Wish I Knew, which was co-written with The Presets’ Julian Hamilton, and premiered on Triple J’s Good Nights. Tuka is renowned for his warmth when it comes to hip-hop songwriting, however this track finds him experimenting with deep house influences and breaking down the barriers of conventional genres.
“I guess the sonic soundscape was a victim to whatever I found exciting, that didn’t put me in the box of being a hip hop artist - I wanted to be an artist in general for this one,” he said.
“Dropping a genre or trying to create my own genre was the objective, there really weren't any rules.”
Nothing In Common But Us expands upon hip-hop more broadly and invites the listener to sit with a wide spectrum of emotions, with Tuka including spoken word poet Anne Casey to explore these feelings and as an ode to his relationship with poetry. “When I saw Anne perform it just hit me right in the head because it’s what I was writing about, and she actually coined the phrase ‘Nothing In Common But Us’, within that poem,” he said.
“...and so afterwards I talked to her on the side of the stage and we had big chats, and I asked her if I could use that line and she was so cool about everything I asked her.” Oftentimes, you can catch Tuka heading to Glebe in Sydney to share wine with friends and listen in adoration to poets who grace the stage.
“You just watch all of these people come out of the woodwork, they’ve had this whole life of experience, and they’ve put a lot of effort into writing a piece of poetry about their perspective and a lot of the time it’s just so beautiful,” he said.
Tuka also collaborated with rising Brisbane indie-pop star Sycco (the brainchild of Sasha McLeod), who features on his track Click Bang.
“Oh my god, she’s a genius! When I sent it to her I didn’t send her any harmonies or anything, but I just sent her a lead,” he said.
“She got it first try, I didn’t even give her any notes. She just came back with her own take on it and I loved everything about it.”
It’s hard to tell what’s in store for the rest of the year for Tuka, as the live music scene is on halt due to COVID-19, but Tuka assured us that it’ll be full of the thing he loves most: writing music.
“All I have to do is write music, and if I told myself that when I was a 17-year-old kid when I started this, I would have been elated! And I am, I am very happy - I’m in a super privileged position where I can wake up and I write a song and that’s my responsibility for the day – and that’s absurd.”
“I’m using COVID to just do a proper reset and hopefully write some of the best music of my life that will be relevant when I go to play it live, whenever that is.”
