GOOD GRIEF HAVE ‘BEEN HERE BEFORE’- NEW EP, UPCOMING REMIX’S, WORKING WITH MICKEY KOJACK, & BEING IN NORTH QUEENSLAND
Good Grief's music defies categorization, blending various styles and moods effortlessly. With their debut EP on the horizon and a remix of "SUN" in the works, the future looks incredibly promising for this dynamic duo. Our friends at Subculture chatted to the guys for all things ‘Good Grief’ and their new EP ‘Been Here Before’.
The electrifying duo hailing from Magnetic Island, Yunbenun, and Townsville's Gurrambilbarra, known as Good Grief, have set the music scene abuzz with the announcement of their much-anticipated debut EP, "Been Here Before,".
This EP not only serves as a cornerstone in their budding discography but also lays down a marker for their future musical endeavors.
The lead track of the EP, "NOMO," emerged from an intense writing session on Magnetic Island, where the duo immersed themselves in a makeshift studio for a week. This track not only guided the thematic direction of the EP but also set the tone stylistically, blending dark house elements with euphoric synth waves. Felix, one half of Good Grief, describes "NOMO" as a journey through dark times, finding solace in reflection, and ultimately moving forward.
"Been Here Before" is a testament to Good Grief's artistic journey, touching upon profound ideologies like growth and resilience. While the EP occasionally delves into darker themes, there's always a glimmer of hope that shines through, showcasing the duo's ability to navigate through contrasting emotions working with Producer, and Mixer ‘Mickey Kojack’
Jake, the other half of Good Grief, reflects on the EP's creative process, highlighting the contrast between their older and newer tracks. He emphasizes how this journey has not only shaped their sound but also allowed them to explore new musical territories, marking a significant evolution for the duo.
Drawing inspiration from a diverse range of influences spanning from Dilla to Chic, Good Grief seamlessly fuses their distinct musical backgrounds with a shared passion for modern dance music. Their debut single, "Sun," garnered immediate attention, earning them accolades like a premiere on Triple J Unearthed and features in prominent indie playlists.
Both Felix and Jake bring a wealth of experience to the table, with Felix having performed as a professional dancer to sold-out audiences globally, while Jake has honed his production skills playing at festivals and clubs across Australia and New Zealand. Their recent sold-out New Year's Eve show in Townsville is a testament to their growing popularity and magnetic stage presence.
Good Grief's music defies categorization, blending various styles and moods effortlessly. With their debut EP on the horizon and a remix of "SUN" in the works, the future looks incredibly promising for this dynamic duo. Keep a close watch on their socials for updates and immerse yourself in the electrifying world of Good Grief.
How are you Jake & Felix?
J - lovely thanks!
F- Really good thanks!
How’s the weather up north at the moment?
J - The weather is very tropical at the moment, its either very hot or raining. I love this time of year because we’re coming out of the full summer heat and everything starts to green up.
Give our readers an insight into Good Grief, and how you and Felix came together?
J - Felix and I had been friends since about 2018 and immediately clicked as friends, we had heaps in common. Around 2019 I started working at a local live music venue / night club and Felix learnt how to DJ and he became a regular playing shows with us. Eventually Felix picked up the guitar again and started doing cover gigs and writing original songs. One thing kinda lead to another and we started working together.
During that period i was focusing on a different project called “Hood Rich” which was house music focused and with covid taking our clubs for so long my writing shifted from club music to basically anything i felt like. Was pretty good timing that felix was getting into music as i was shifting focus i guess!
F - Exactly what Jake said haha! When we met we really clicked on a bunch of different levels, but I was also really inspired by Jake as an artist/creator. He’s so passionate about music and he introduced me to so many new genres/artists I'd never heard of - particularly in the Electronic Dance Music world. Jake has always had incredibly strong visions for his sound (whether that be when he creates or when he would throw festivals/parties) and I was always so inspired by his depth of knowledge and attention to detail over these parts of his process.
Also Jake pretty much taught me how to produce music/DJ which is pretty rad!
What has influenced the sounds of Good Grief? I see you’ve listed Dilla and Chic; anyone else that you pull inspo from for writing music?
J - Artist influences constantly change for me but there’s a bunch of producers that have always inspired me - people like Philippe Zdar (rip) Tim Goldsworthy, Danger Mouse, Paul Epworth, James Murphy, Joseph Mount, Mf Doom, Kevin Parker, Nile Rodgers, so many more but i dont wanna keep rambling.
F - Yeah such a mix for good grief! And like Jake said, it changes a lot. I remember when we were writing the first ep we were both loving Durand Jones and the Indicators, LCD Soundsystem and Sault to name a few. But I’d say our newer stuff has a Tame Impala/Talking heads vibe to it.
Are you playing live instruments on this new ‘EP’, or are you pulling samples more than anything?
J - Basically everything is recorded live besides the drums which I spend a lot of time trying to make the samples feel unique to our music. All the effects are done with keyboards then manipulated in ableton as well. We try to avoid using melodic or instrument samples as much as possible to try to create something new.
How was it working with Mickey Kojack on this EP? Any good stories?
J - Mickey did the mix downs on this EP after we’d recorded and produced everything but he just came up to Townsville recently to work with me on the follow up EP. I don't think there’s any stories that are good one liners but I’ve worked with Mickey for years and it's always a blast, the guys a legend, an amazing musician/producer and we always have a lot of fun.
F - Yeah he’s awesome! I did a vocal session with him in Sydney and he was just so welcoming and supportive. At that time I was semi-new to recording/music production and he was the best hype man haha!
Can you give us some insight into putting together ‘Sun’ and ‘Have It All’ the two lead singles of the Record?
J - both are pretty different processes.
For Sun we were on Magnetic Island recording a bunch of demos and our friend Raymond was over there at the time and he helped us write Sun. Felix wrote the main synth line and originally we were planning the track to be a slower jam then I decided to swap the BPM and drums up to a more dance driven track and the rest of the instruments and vocals kinda wrote themselves. I think that track was almost fully wrote in a few hours.
Have It All; I’d been in New Caledonia on holidays for a couple weeks and each day i’d write a new beat idea and this track was in the pile once i returned. I showed Felix everything id worked on over there and this track jumped out to him. Again i think we wrote all the main parts and a basic structure in an hour. It’s always fun when tracks come together that fast, its an amazing feeling!
Do you have plans to play live? Or are you primarily sticking to Dj sets?
J - We played live twice last year opening for Donny Benet and The Delta Riggs. We’re hoping to plan a run of dates along the east coast for sometime this year. I think after every live show we will likely try find a place to DJ afterwards as well. Felix and I have DJ’d for years and its great to play a set that represents our sound in the club.
What are your go-to records for listening when you have downtime?
J - I like listening to a lot of lowrider oldies and newer soul stuff to chill out but 5 classic comfort albums for me would be:
since i left you - avalanches
bright like neon love - cut copy
anything 1999 to 2006 by MF Doom and his various alias’
On the green again - tiger & woods
Nights out - metronomy
F - Run it Back - Homebrew
It’s all a bit fuzzy - Neil Frances
Young Heart - Benny sngs
Heaps of Daryl Hall and John Oates.
Silk degrees - Boz Scaggs
What’s it like being based in North Queensland? What is the music community like up there?
J - the community is pretty tight and strong. We have a great bunch of local musicians across a lot of different genres but because the city is so small it feels like a lot of people support each other regardless of genre differences.
F - I love the lifestyle here. It’s so spacious and really allows me to be so creative with my time. And yeah, the community up here is so tight/supportive.
I personally pull alot of Justice, Jungle, LCD Soundsystem out of your music, that’s my personal take, but how would you describe your music to a new listener
J - yeah they’re definitely big influences. We don't intentionally aim for this when writing and recording but i think we sound like chill out music you can party too.
What’s next for Good Grief, I hear a few remixes?
J - currently working on a remix for Mickey Kojaks new single. We have a remix of Sun coming out heaps soon - I wanted to make a remix we could play in our DJ sets that wasn’t the original and also kept the club sound system in mind.
We’re currently hard at work on our second EP so hopefully we’ll have a single coming out in the next few months, and hoping to be on the road at some point soon too!
Where can we catch you?
Check us out on spotify and instagram!
https://www.instagram.com/goodgrief_band/
https://open.spotify.com/artist/44vTKdC4JwZej8SuMM7UgB?si=U1k7OYq8T8-nFbsLnmjawQ
Any last words?
J - Thanks heaps for chatting with us, really appreciate the support!
Everyone who reads this should go listen to the EP 10 times, tell you aunty and pop to do the same, let's get these numbers up baby!
F - Thanks for having us!
A QUICK Q&A WITH FRASER HEARTLINE
Our gal Ashlee had a e-chat with Fraser from Heartline for q quick Q&A about their latest EP ‘i call for the sinking warmth’
Our gal Ashlee had a e-chat with Fraser from Heartline for q quick Q&A about their latest EP ‘i call for the sinking warmth’
Firstly, congratulations on the release of the EP! What was some of the inspiration behind ‘i call for the sinking warmth’?
Thank you! Most of the inspiration came from personal issues at the time, there was just so much frustration we wanted to release through music.
Can you walk me through the creative process that you went through to produce the EP?
So first our guitarist Fraser started working on the structures and textures throughout 2019 and 2020, and then our vocalist Luke was able to begin building the lyrical content.
This is probably a tough one…but what’s your personal favourite song off of the EP?
Personally, I (Fraser) think under the willow is my favourite overall, just because it sounds so unique and it’s such an important turning point on the EP.
You guys were added to the Adelaide show as one of the support act for Belle Haven’s ‘Nobody Likes A Hospital’ tour. How did it feel to play these new songs live?
Amazing! We’ve spent so much time creating a live show that does these songs justice and to see people really get into it was heart-warming.
I know it was only released a few days ago but how has the response been so far to ‘i call for the sinking warmth’?
So special. We’ve had so many messages and people really seem to like the whole thing. Knowing that it is connecting with people has made all the work worth it for sure.
Who are some of the Aussie acts you’ve been listening to right now?
Northlane, Thornhill, Void Of Vision and Windwaker are our favourites, but for a bit of a different vibe we can’t go past Up Late and Ecca Vandal, they’re crushing it.
What can we expect for the future of Heartline?
Lots of music, sooner than you think. We’ve been busy. And of course hopefully some tours before the year is out!
Check out Ashlee’s heartening review of the new EP HERE!
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VOODOO BLOO’S TOP NZ VISITS
It’s what we like to call Australia’s little sister - but they definitely have a bunch of things over us - Jacinda Arden, Hobbitton, the gorgeous landscapes - the list goes on, and here it is! Leading up to his upcoming EP release, here are punk rocker Voodoo Bloo’s top 5 New Zealand faves
It’s what we like to call Australia’s little sister - but they definitely have a bunch of things over us - Jacinda Arden, Hobbitton, the gorgeous landscapes - the list goes on, and here it is! Leading up to his upcoming EP release, here are punk rocker Voodoo Bloo’s top 5 New Zealand faves;
Wellington CBD - “I couldn’t make this list without talking about the place I grew up. Honestly the coolest city in the world. Everything in the CBD is very compact yet it isn’t overcrowded in the slightest, some of the best pubs you will find anywhere (try and hunt down the secretly placed “R Bar” if you want some pirate-themed rum cocktails and a good time), and street food cheap yet beautiful. What more could you want out of a hometown?”
Rotorua - “Okay, we get it, it smells a little bit eggy when you get there (and when I say a little bit, I mean a lot), but it’s the closest thing we have to an amusement park (sorry Rainbows End, you don’t quite cut it) in our small nation. The Luge and hot springs are especially a highlight, one of the prettiest places to go in summer.”
Mount Maunganui - “Yet another beautiful town in the summer. I actually stayed in a bach up there for 3 weeks recently and like all good New Zealand towns, everything is right at your fingertips. I’m not much for hiking, but the view from the top of the mount is well worth the trek, and unlike my previous pick, no traces of egg can be found anywhere.”
Taco Bell, West Auckland - “If you couldn’t tell, I’ve already ran out of places I wanna talk about in New Zealand, though I would endorse the one and only Taco Bell in New Zealand in a heartbeat (if Taco Bell is reading this, hit me up with that sponsorship deal yeah?). I’ve spent many hungover Sundays from my visits to the busy city in this fast food restaurant, all the perils of uneasiness and post-rager recovery have come to an end as soon as I take a bite out of that beautiful 5 dollar burrito wrap. Am I a simple man for putting this on the list? Probably, but this is my list not yours, so yeah.”
Wellington Airport - “Okay, I’ve not given up on Wellington, and I’m not trying to imply I wanna bail by adding this, but I simply just wanna say that you cannot find a giant gandalf riding a bird in any other airport. Is that not enough for it to be on this list? How about a massive dragon head (Smaug’s to be specific)? No? Alright. Your loss not mine. It’s awesome, 10/10, would fly again.”
Check out the latest release ‘Ha Ha Ok Ok’ below and keep an eye out for the album - ‘Jacobus’ is released Friday, December 4th.
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EP REVIEW: ZACHARY LEO’S ‘FEELS’ IS GIVING US THE FEELS
G’day, kids and kidlets! I know, been a while but here I am, and lawd do I have a stunner for you! If anyone remembers, I reviewed a sexy little single called ‘Feels’; a beautiful blend of soul, r&b, and some pretty rock vibes all weaved into that mix. Without further ado; I give you…. Feels, an EP by Zachary Leo.
G’day, kids and kidlets! I know, been a while but here I am, and lawd do I have a stunner for you!
If anyone remembers, I reviewed a sexy little single called ‘Feels’; a beautiful blend of soul, r&b, and some pretty rock vibes all weaved into that mix.
Well, wouldn’t you know who popped into our email inbox!
Without further ado; I give you….
Feels, an EP by Zachary Leo.
1: Prelude
Ahh, what a start! This instrumental number is a little bit 70’s, little bit mysterious, and a whole lot of rock. It’s very… music for those good 70’s and 80’s movies- hear me out- Pretty in Pink? It's just so SMOOTH. It’s delicate, slow burning but oh so sensual. This whole intro really sets a high bar for the rest of the EP. It’s so magically weaved together, I can’t even see straight. Where are my glasses???
2: Insane
You know what? I believe there is a vinyl being released on the 20th of November. I am telling you now- I really fucking want one. The transition from Prelude to Insane is LITERALLY INSANE. It’s so smooth and just seamless. What a good start, Mr Leo!
This one is a bit more on the “Rock” side of Zachary’s somehow multifaceted genre.
I did struggle to understand the lyrics a bit, but I think the focus was the instrumental aspect of this song. It was definitely interesting to hear the somehow unending vocal limit. I understand the angst in this song, this really conveys Leo’s struggle with anxiety and you can feel that? Once you know what the song is, you can hear it.
All around, it was a really punchy start to the vocal aspect of this EP. Zachary is really mastering the production of his own work, and let me tell you it is hard to stop playing with something until you’re sure that it’s reached it’s peak. This is that peak. The vocals and instrumentals aren’t battling each other for dominance. Everything is working together to create a great sound. Rock is really versatile in that it can basically reach everyone with very little effort. It’s a genre for the people.
3: In My Head
Hello, gorgeous! This is a really funky little track. I'm wiggling in my seat, it is so easy to move to! I think there is a music video attached to this song, being released early!
This is way more gentle than ‘Insane’, it’s got remnants of ‘Feels’ so you know it’s a kicker really, it’s got that slow build to the bridge and it just feels like it’s directed at me? I mean, the listener.
You get your classic Zachary Leo Serenade, with familiar guitar licks and punchy bass. Very good stuff, Zachary. I can dig it.
4: Interlude
Ah, this feels like the part where you’re supposed to take a breath and relax a little. Every single song on this EP is able to stand on it’s own; and yet they all work together so wonderfully? How does this happen??
This interlude is a little bit of lullaby, it’s so soft and delicate, I think this is exactly what the EP needed- just a teeny tiny little breather.
5: Feels
Now listen; I know I already reviewed this song, however when I heard it again in the order of the EP, I felt like I was hearing it for the first time. I feel like there is a whole other facet to this song that I wasn’t hearing before. It’s a whole new song when tied into this EP. It’s so brooding and I feel like I’m sitting on the couch on hot (Australian) summer night, and Zachary is explaining what he’s feeling towards me, the listener, the partner, the fling-or-something-more, and he's just pouring his heart out, the little muffin. Poor darling. I hear you. When I heard it as a single, I wasn’t sure how it would sound in the EP but now, it fits. Here is the missing puzzle piece. It’s a 6 piece jigsaw but it still needed this song.
6: Out Of Place
Did you think we were leaving the rock behind? You are sorely mistaken, my friend.
This is such a garage band kind of rock song. It’s super vulnerable but also so wonderful in the sense that we are being pulled in by the delicious guitar and enigmatic drum kicks, and the lyrics just set us down for a great show. This is the garage band your brother and his friend started and you go because his drummer friend is hot but you stay because you love the music.
This one definitely fits with the title, Zachary definitely puts across that he's feeling out of place in the scenario; I can’t quite pin whether or not he’s been rejected or if it’s coming, but there's a little bit of angst hidden between the rock/grunge guitar riffs, and is that a solo I hear? Yes. Come to mama.
Overall, this is a really solid start to Zachary Leo’s Album/EP discography. I believe the songs all worked together to create a beautiful story of love and the mental struggle with comes with that whole thing: rejection, hope, questioning of self worth,; it’s all there if you listen hard enough.
There is definitely some cohesiveness to each song and the transitions are wonderful, and while I think that while interlude was needed in such a multifaceted EP, it feels slightly out of place in it’ lullaby like form. It was a breath of fresh air from the heavier, rock/funk tracks, but I felt like maybe it could have gone at the end instead of the middle of the track list. A calming, almost moment-of-clarity end to the EP would have rounded it off well.
In any case, it’s wonderful to see such strong music coming out of Melbourne; it’s looking like the music industry will recover from the hefty times we have all been through as of late.
Great work, Mr Leo.
INTERVIEW: SKYWAY CHAT ‘CUT THE TIES’ AND UPCOMING EP ‘HOPE FLOATS, LOVE SINKS’
Skyway’s Rupert Muir recently got back to us with a quick chat about their most recent release ‘Cut The Ties’
Skyway’s Rupert Muir recently got back to us with a quick chat about their most recent release ‘Cut The Ties’
Listening to ‘Cut the Ties,’ I got the impression that it was about needing to break away from something holding you back, but struggling with that potential loss. What was the inspiration behind the song?
Disconnecting from things in your life that hold you back from your true potential.
I imagine that after a long break, you must all be excited and ready to get back into it. How does it feel to be working together again?
Yeah we’re stingin’ to do some gigs to play some of the classics and new songs. It feels normal, like riding a bike or rolling up a durry. A lot has changed in all of our lives but when we’re all together it’s all familiar.
Looking through social media, it’s safe to say that all of your fans are super keen that you’re releasing new music. Did you anticipate this type of response?
We didn’t really think about it to be honest. It’s very humbling to see some of the responses and that people have been listening to us over all these years. We owe some new tunes to ‘em and a gig or two.
Can you tell us a little more about your upcoming EP, ‘Hope Floats, Love Sinks’? What can fans expect?
5 tracks including intro and a cover. It’s pretty lit, it sounds like Skyway after a long hiatus. Some fast stuff. Some slow stuff. Some fun stuff. Good clean fun.
Can you walk me through the creative process that you went through to produce ‘Hope Floats, Love Sinks’?
Had a couple of Jams together and thought why not? Had a few tracks up the old sleeve so we finally hit the studio and the rest is history
With the current state of the pandemic in Australia, the music industry has definitely been put on the back burner. How has this impacted you, both musically and mentally?
I’ve been a hermit for years so I was mentally prepared for isolation and not much changed for me except for not being able to go to the gym or gamble. We’ve been pretty lucky in QLD and all of our respective industries were mainly unaffected. So we’re in no spot to complain. If anything its made us more hungry for gigs.
At the beginning of isolation, creatives were expected to create more and there was an immense pressure placed on them. Is this something you experienced with the production of ‘Hope Floats, Love Sinks’?
We had the foresight of the pandemic so we took that hiatus all those years ago to prevent any sort of creative pressures placed on us...We were mostly done with recording before C ‘Rone got skitz, luckily.
Who are some of your favourite Aussie acts?
Loser, Speed, Smash, Polaris, Violent Soho, Aversions Crown, Thy Art Is Murder,
INTERVIEW: SUZE CHATS ‘ABSENCE’ WITH INFINITE ILLUSION
Infinite Illusion have just dropped a new single ‘Absence’ and the boys have definitely taken it up a notch. Liam McDonald filled me in on what has been happening with the band.
Infinite Illusion have just dropped a new single ‘Absence’ and the boys have definitely taken it up a notch. Liam McDonald filled me in on what has been happening with the band.
How heavy is this new song!!
It’s funny because it’s our heaviest but also our lightest at the same time and I don’t really know how that ended up working. Dynamically it is so different to anything else we have ever done. We like it.
Me too. When I first heard it I was like Wow that went next level!
A lot of it has to do with the fact that our first lot of stuff was written by Sam when he was 15. We are all mid-twenties now, so Sam wrote that nearly a decade ago. We’d all been doing our own thing and when it came around to release it was a joke. We were all just hanging around and were like ‘hey do we want to release some music?’ and it just spiralled from there. And then we just kept going. This is the first real song that we wrote as a band now.
It wasn’t what I was expecting
I don’t think even we were expecting it. We got a new member at the back end of last year and we completely changed everything. We didn’t really have any intention of releasing any other music to be honest, we were a bit stale and then we got a kick to keep going. This is the first song that came out of it. We’ve got a few more coming after this. We are actually going into the studio the day before Absence comes out to start recording another couple of songs. I think after that we are planning to do an album, I’m not 100% sure. We’ll see how we go.
What’s the story behind the song?
The story behind the song is pretty interesting actually. Dan hit me with a concept, I write the lyrics for all of our stuff, but the concepts are somewhere I have always struggled I guess. Well not struggled but I tend to box myself in to certain topics and that kind of thing. It was really good Dan hit me with a concept of PTSD and reclaiming a loss of identity. Which is actually something I resonated quite well with but didn’t put a lot of thought into. It’s a personification of that kind of feeling, of being trapped and trying to come back and overcome depression, anxiety, PTSD, whatever it might be. It’s a very metaphoric story behind reclaiming who you are before mental health kicks in, as opposed to who you are after. And that’s were if you listen lyrically as it goes along it’s very much a song that literally tells a story. It starts off you’re being held back, you’re falling apart. This thing is attacking you. As it gets further along, the chorus tells the main story. As it gets closer to the breakdown, the breakdown hits in the song “I’ll break your fucking jaw myself” is literally a line about turning around and throwing back. Just fighting and getting out. I remember when I sent the boys that lyric, I loved it and I remember writing it and going that’s really cool. I honestly didn’t think I would get away with it, I thought the boys were going to come back and be like you can’t do that its ridiculous. Instead they were like no that’s staying. A lot of the song built on that lyric, that pre breakdown lyric stayed and I edited everything else on the side to really create that story of a reclamation identity. Fighting back against something that I think a lot of people in our scene deal with.
Dan wrote this song at a time when he discovered he has PTSD. Through 2019 he definitely had this big breakdown. He was in a couple of other bands as well and he overwhelmed himself and it broke him. We bought him in as a fill in drummer. I’m good friends with him so I asked if he wanted to fill in for a couple of shows. It was like an instant click, between me and him especially with these concepts and lyrically. And really translating that into music as well. I thought everything kind of clicked and he’s got these incredible experiences, he’s older than the rest of us, that we can write about and really tell some cool stories. This is the first one where we are really focused on the story telling of the song. Even though the music is important I think for us playing this live, when we get that chance, will definitely be a little bit more emotional than anything else we have done. I honestly think it comes across in the track as well.
Like I said when I listened to it I was like what the hell happened between Ill Intent and here?
We took a break to reinvent ourselves in all honesty. We took that break intentionally and everything fell into place. We have been sitting on this song since January, obviously with a few things kicking in it pushed it back a bit further than we would have liked. But it gave us time to really think about who we were as a band. I think above anything that is a positive. We weren’t being forced to play shows, we had time to pull back and just think “What are we doing here? Who are we? Are we just another metalcore band? Do we want to attach ourselves to politics or mental health? What do we want to do?” We all have different political views so that was a big no, but the one thing we all absolutely resonated with was mental health. Having someone who has had such heavy experiences, my best friend died when I was 16 and Sam has lost a couple of friends, To The Grave losing Josh. We saw all that and we were like this is where we need to be. I think this is the one where we can actually help give people, not so much a space, but give them a soundtrack to that space. And just really focus on doing that. I think that is why lyrically we are pushing this content so much. Lyrically, above anything else, its quite a powerful song and we are really proud of it. I’m proud of the lyrics that I came up with, they came so naturally as well which makes it better.
It wasn’t forced, it came from an experience. It’s not something that you guys have just thought ‘Oh I’m going to write about this cos I can’
Pretty much that’s exactly it. Experience tells those stories better that anything. I think as well when we were writing it we had a big discussion: do we censor it or do we just make it violent. I’m not a big fan of censoring things, I don’t think it’s ever a bad thing to feel uncomfortable. I feel being uncomfortable is a huge part of growth. Obviously people are scared to feel like that, scared to face those truths. We made the song vivid for that reason, if it does make people feel a little uncomfortable that’s okay. It could be good; it might not be good and that’s a risk we had to take.
There is no point writing a song like that and not being real about it.
Definitely. We did get a lot of push back from quite a few people being ‘Guys this is a little bit graphic, you could really trigger some people with these lyrics’ We pulled them back a little bit, but it ended up being like what we had written to start with. The guy that we produced with was just like nah don’t pull back, just do it. You’re not going to make an impact if you are being safe. We were just yep that works let’s just do it.
I would totally back him with that one. If you want something to have an impact on people, don’t water it down. It’s not going to have the same effect.
Exactly. This song is all about that impact for us I think. Our last record wasn’t bad, I’m not a huge fan of it, I would never listen to it. That was the big one for me. This album we really wanted to make that impact. We want people even above anything else to just know out name. Even if they don’t listen to the song, that ok. I just want people to get used to seeing our name around because we have every intention of keeping it there.
You only have the one single ready to go?
In terms of all our demos, we have about 7 or 8 that are being recorded over the next 3 months. The plan is 3 stand alone singles, reinventing our sound and image off the back of those. Then we will do another record. Whether that is an EP, or an album remains to be seen. That depends on a lot of factors. We are just playing it by ear, one single at a time. None of the singles that we release will be on that record. The record will be totally stand alone as the new version of us. Ill Intent gave us a start but it’s definitely time that we left that behind and really focused on the new version and sound that we have. Except for maybe Afterthought, that’s the only one that will stay around for a little while. We really like that song, and we think it’s a lot more modern than the rest.
I liked the EP!!!
I don’t think it was bad, it just wasn’t anything special. Musically it was good, technical, heavy breakdowns, big riffs. It was cool but there was nothing new about it. It was good if you liked it, but it didn’t hold people. I think it didn’t give people a reason to stay.
This one will if the first single is anything to go by.
I’m a lot more confident with this one. I’m not sure if it’s because I’ve been listening to it by myself for the last 6-8 months! I took a break of listening to it then I came back to it. I was like yes this is good. Its really hard a musician to sit there and praise yourself, questioning could you have down stuff better. But coming back to it, I actually took this lesson off Mikey from Gloom, come back to it and if you still like it, its good.
I’m a classical piano player. I have been my whole life. So for me to join a metalcore band is kind of unheard of. I remember one of my old conductors from an orchestra I played in a couple of years ago was like ‘What the fuck are you doing? How do you make that noise, it’s disgusting’. I was like yep it is but its fucking sick!!
It’s a cool genre to be in. I think as a small band above anything else, its really really cool to be in metalcore. I’ve been in other bands over the years, nothing heavy. Blues and rock and one cover band that I don’t talk about! I’ve played big blues festivals and stuff. But there’s nothing quite like the support I have experienced in metal. There is nothing quite like the community, it’s so amazing to see a community that is so supportive of each other.
So there will be no touring with this!
There’s nothing in the pipeline. Collide, we have had to push back twice now. Unify is looking like it’s not going ahead as well. It’s shit but at the same time at least we aren’t dead. You have to take the positives. I think it has given a lot of us time to grow as well. Time to reflect. I was working stupid hours, and I know the other guys in the band were the same. We had no time for ourselves. We can either use this time to loathe in the fact that everything has been taken away, or we can use this time to become better. Really reflect on past practises, how we do things and who we are. Make time for other things in our lives. Take the positives out of being forced to do nothing.
I started Recurrent Verse at the end of April and it’s just gone crazy. I’ve already posted 60 articles and I’m getting more everyday
That’s mental. That’s so good. It’s good to see some new publications around.
I only do Australian bands because there is so much happening here. Aussie metalcore is my passion.
That’s the cool stuff. I don’t know what it is about Australian metalcore but far out there is something in the water here. Jesus some of the bands that are coming out like Elision and Inertia. Deadlights, I’ve always been a huge fan of those guys.
I am so keen for new Deadlights. Mesma is in my top 10 all time albums.
It’s such a good record. Elision’s new stuff has been incredible. The technicality in those boys is amazing. They are a very talented bunch of dudes. I have so much respect for them. Inertia as well, they are one of those bands that I think has the ability to blow up. Outloved have just announced a record. I was like omg this is like listening to BMTH but not listening to BMTH!! It had that impact on me. It was like listening to one of my favourite bands. It was so good to hear. There is just so much good stuff out at the moment.
There’s so many new cool bands coming through too like Ghost Complex, Canyon, Tides Collide, Dweller, Wake the Blind so many good bands
And Lune. I forgot about them. Then you look at the big boys and what they are releasing. Alpha Wolf’s record I thought was really good. There’s more coming from other bands. That 2 year cycle has now reduced to 1 year. To see so many bands releasing stuff is so good. I honestly don’t think I have heard a bad release this year.
I haven’t either. Someone said to me that everything I write is always so positive, do you just not review bad bands! I said to them honest to god there had not been a bad release this year.
I think album of the year has to be Make Them Suffer or Currents. They are my two.
I would say at the moment mine would be Alpha Wolf, Make Them Suffer, Saviour and We Set Signals.
Saviour’s was sick too. It means everyone has to step up or you are going to get left behind.
Diamond Construct is another one! Who would think adding a DJ would work… I’m loving all this experimentation in the scene.
It’s super important to do that metalcore has always been such a non-accessible kind of genre. It’s always been you like it or you don’t. That is definitely changing now, metalcore as a genre is changing with bands like BMTH leading the way. Whether you like AMO or not, it has set a standard for what you can do in metalcore. I personally thought it was their best record.
I personally think that 'Absence' is Infinite Illusions best release so far! After talking to Liam I think we are about to see big things come from the boys. Bring on 2021 when hopefully gigs return, and we can see 'Absence' played in a live setting..