We're super excited for this one - we get to chat to Ben Lee about social media presence, indigenous awareness, personal identity, tik tok, collaboration, Taylor Swift, and heaps more; and of course his latest release 'Born For This Bullshit'.

This episode is a hot mess. It’s been a while and we’re out of practice, but settle in for 45 minutes of updates, shit-talking, and a chat with Sly Withers!